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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
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    Okay so question: have you done any of the current savages? Your statement

    Worse, someone who manage every mechanic correctly, but lack some skills in his rotation or some stuff might do lower damage that a stronger/easier character in the hands of the players that fail every mechanic, and will be the one to be punished because he's "bad".
    makes no sense in the context of most of the current endgame raids. If you flub a mechanic, if you're lucky, the only person whose dps is lowered is your own. If you're not you just either killed (and thus dropped dps for everyone you killed by 25%) party members. V3S in particular if you don't watch your mechanics you're going to annihilate your friends more than your enemy.

    So where does this "person who does mechanics flawlessly but has bad dps versus person who screws up every mechanic but has godly dps" image come from? Because I can't think of many fights where flubbing mechanics doesn't negatively impact your dps.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If you do a slightly better rotation than someone else, and have a much higher gear, even your lowered DPS can be higher than them.
    Do people answer simple, direct questions around here?

    Have you done any of the raids this tier in savage?

    And now a followup question: Can you give me an example of a mechanic you can fail at and maintain or even increase dps while doing so? Particularly one where your rotation being "slightly better" with "much higher" (mind we're within 25 average iLv of each other in savage by necessity) gear yields enough added damage that the damage lost through failing a mechanic is nullified?

    Mind, failing a mechanic in various savage fights can result in, but is not limited to: death (25% downgrade to ALL damage), double death (50% damage downgrade), damage down (My veraero/verthunders dropped to 1000 damage apiece when I got hit with this in v3s), vuln up (damage down on healers since they now have to focus your hp so you don't die, and if you do die, see death), getting damage down / vuln up on party members, and finally getting party members killed.

    All of these mechanics that, failing them, reduce damage well past the point one person's godly dps can save the fight. So I'll return to my original point:


    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    So where does this "person who does mechanics flawlessly but has bad dps versus person who screws up every mechanic but has godly dps" image come from? Because I can't think of many fights where flubbing mechanics doesn't negatively impact your dps.
    I'll add it's not even a false dichotomy. It's not even a dichotomy, that second person just doesn't exist because if you're not doing mechanics you HAVE no DPS.
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