How does SE justify these ten min enrages, but doesnt let anyone know their dps

[thegreatonemal]

So then, what's the excuse for groups that have zero deaths but still fail to meet enrage? Again. Meeting enrage is a lot more than just "not dying and pressing 1-2-3."

Bring me the group that is this because I've never seen it. but to play along then they aren't doing their rotation right simple as that. that is a go look at a guide problem not break out the parser problem. Back to reality this is rare no group is able to do mechanics flawlessly and not know how to play their roles

[bswpayton]

Bring me the group that is this because I've never s

Your kidding right , see this is exactly why we need what im talkin about you do realized these bosses have millions in health right, well act does tell you that but just lookin at it blindly ud never know. But , yes you can have enrage with no deaths ive seen it a few times, on the two primals I just dont understand how people just accept being totally in the dark. Without someone else parsing we wouldnt have guides to the most optimal rotations, we also wouldnt even know what the average dps should be for a job with a new level cap. Wouldnt know how much melds effect dps, or anything like that parsers effect this game alot more than you think even if your not using one yourself. Being in the dark helps no one people just want to complain about fears of others abusing each other despite that happening every single day in the game already parse or no parse.

[HyoMinPark]

Bring me the group that is this because I've never seen it. but to play along then they aren't doing their rotation right simple as that. that is a go look at a guide problem not break out the parser problem. Back to reality this is rare no group is able to do mechanics flawlessly and not know how to play their roles

You must not PUG very often then. Because I've seen groups like this a lot. And even if it's a rotation issue, gear issue, whatever issue, my point still stands: meeting enrage is a lot more than just "not dying and pressing 1-2-3." The poster I was responding to is basically saying meeting enrage = not dying. You can still meet enrage with deaths, and you can still NOT meet enrage with NO deaths. There's much more that goes into successfully clearing a fight than just "not dying." If a group doesn't have the overall DPS to clear a fight (V1S and V2S take roughly 20k to 21k DPS to clear just before enrage goes off), it doesn't matter if no one dies. They won't be meeting enrage with 15k Raid DPS or 17k Raid DPS.

Parsers are not the devil. The people that use them to fuel abuse and harassment are the bad guys here. Not the parsers. And really, in my experience, I have met and reported ONE person who actively harassed people based off of their parse. Ironically enough, they weren't doing so hot either, so not sure what they were trying to accomplish other than blame-shifting for the wipes. But the fact of the matter still stands. Jerks are going to be jerks, parser or no parser. So parsers aren't the bad guy here; they're just, unfortunately, used as a tool in the harassment, and, as a result, are cast in an unfavorable light from there on out.