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  1. #441
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    AlphaSonic's Avatar
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    Is there any logical reason as why SAM has higher DPS than BLM?

    BLM offers 0 utility, SAM offers Slashing debuff.
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  2. #442
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    Enju Abbagliato
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Is there any logical reason as why SAM has higher DPS than BLM?

    BLM offers 0 utility, SAM offers Slashing debuff.
    If we go by that logic, why not. Though keep in mind that it offers no utility compared to other casters while samurai bring none compared to other melee (unless you magically do not have a warrior or ninja in the comp)
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    Last edited by Enjuden; 07-10-2017 at 08:21 AM.

  3. #443
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Is there any logical reason as why SAM has higher DPS than BLM?

    BLM offers 0 utility, SAM offers Slashing debuff.
    Maybe cause Blm has (or should have) the better "aoe" dps?

    But since Blm get punished the most with movement, it should in theory imo have the highest dps when NOT moving. That is not the case though.

    Than again Blm rotation is so easy, so they can't make it the highest dps, or every one would play it. But wait, that's kind of happening to Rdm and Sam.

    Getting a feeling, SE wants more players on the new jobs, more than at HW release. Where SE failed to make Ast, Drk and Mch good enough at release.

    And Blm, Drg, Sch snd War were kind of over used? So till SE feels the players have shifted enough, then they will give those classes more love again. Like at 3.0, Drg needed more love coming from 2.x.
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  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    Maybe cause Blm has (or should have) the better "aoe" dps?

    But since Blm get punished the most with movement, it should in theory imo have the highest dps when NOT moving. That is not the case though.

    Than again Blm rotation is so easy, so they can't make it the highest dps, or every one would play it. But wait, that's kind of happening to Rdm and Sam.

    Getting a feeling, SE wants more players on the new jobs, more than at HW release. Where SE failed to make Ast, Drk and Mch good enough at release.

    And Blm, Drg, Sch snd War were kind of over used? So till SE feels the players have shifted enough, then they will give those classes more love again. Like at 3.0, Drg needed more love coming from 2.x.
    Let me just correct, even if Blm has the easiest rotation, that means nothing in end raids. Possibly the most difficult dps in end raids.
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  5. #445
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    Let me just correct, even if Blm has the easiest rotation, that means nothing in end raids. Possibly the most difficult dps in end raids.
    Maybe the easiest rotation, but one of the most difficult to maintain.
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  6. #446
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enjuden View Post
    If we go by that logic, why not. Though keep in mind that it offers no utility compared to other casters while samurai bring none compared to other melee (unless you magically do not have a warrior or ninja in the comp)
    PLD/DRK and any composition of DPS that doesn't have a NIN and has a SAM. It's not really difficult.
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  7. #447
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    Rhia Nara
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Maybe the easiest rotation, but one of the most difficult to maintain.
    Blm may have an easy rotation on paper, but anyone who says Blm is easy to play has clearly never played a Blm in endgame content.
    Blm has the hardest to maintain, most punished by movement or mechanics rotation of all classes.
    It always was and is still a class easy to learn, but one of the hardest to master.
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  8. #448
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    PLD/DRK and any composition of DPS that doesn't have a NIN and has a SAM. It's not really difficult.
    In that incredibly niche case...sure.
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  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    In that incredibly niche case...sure.
    Niche? Going SAM or NIN Allows you to not need to pick WAR as a tank, so PLD/DRK tank composition it's not niche.

    If it wasn't because of the fact that DRG was UP seeing a comp of PLD/DRK/SAM/DRG wouldn't be weird at all.
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  10. #450
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Is there any logical reason as why SAM has higher DPS than BLM?

    BLM offers 0 utility, SAM offers Slashing debuff.
    You make a good point. The way that SAM has 0 utility really makes me not want to bring any to my parities. It doesn't offer much of anything at all...and I've played with RDM that easily out DPS them...
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