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    BelraugFire's Avatar
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    Belraug Fire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70

    SAM out classing all other DPS

    Is it me, or is Sam have such a high damage output compare to everyon else. After reviewing the class skills, the Sam finisher move has a potency of over 700 and their rotation is so simple like a tanks, while all other dps is in the 300s, why the giant gap. I know SE wants us to play the new classes but this is rediculous. I have watch the Agro tables in every dungeon I've been since launch and every time Sam is is in second. There used to be a fight for it, drg vs mnk vs nin vs smn vs blm, but now it's Sam evertime with almost no contest. Mnk have drop to trash tier as well, Smn has been replaced by red mage in aoe department so they are down there too. They need to fix this cause it takes the fun out of your favorite classes, What are your thoughts?
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    LordMaitreya's Avatar
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    Jsun El
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BelraugFire View Post
    Is it me, or is Sam have such a high damage output compare to everyon else. After reviewing the class skills, the Sam finisher move has a potency of over 700 and their rotation is so simple like a tanks, while all other dps is in the 300s, why the giant gap. I know SE wants us to play the new classes but this is rediculous. I have watch the Agro tables in every dungeon I've been since launch and every time Sam is is in second. There used to be a fight for it, drg vs mnk vs nin vs smn vs blm, but now it's Sam evertime with almost no contest. Mnk have drop to trash tier as well, Smn has been replaced by red mage in aoe department so they are down there too. They need to fix this cause it takes the fun out of your favorite classes, What are your thoughts?
    I think you better get ready for the massive amount of weebos that are going to flame you.
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    Niyuka's Avatar
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    SAM is the best DPS class, it was also advertised as such. They wont (and cant) go back on that now. Theoretically, other classes were supposed to bring support abilities to make up for their inferiority in comparison to SAM, but judging from what we can test and see right now, at least at item lvl 314 this is not the case.

    The problem being also that since SAM is the best DPS class on its own (as designed), it makes better use of most single-target buffs, thus it always is best to buff the SAM until aggro becomes a problem, so you basically require a PLD tank who has better aggro (and is the best tank anyway) right now.

    So, IF you go for performance, SAM is best, PLD is best and AST is best in their respectives roles ,with BLM having a specialized AOE role (that is currently not needed in the EX content).
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Ninja DPS is pretty good now, with its buffs like TA I bet the overall contribution is better than Samurai, plus better AoE.
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    Belraug Fire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    these are my observations and thoughts on the matter, I welcome everyone's thoughts as well. I just find it rediculous that ever class was gutted and then there's Sam god tier in damage. What happen to earning that #2 spot on the Aggro table with your perfect rotation and skill? I just saying is all classes need to be rebalanced.
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    Belraug Fire
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Mainly drg and mnk got gutted. These 2 are well know for having good #s but now not so much. Classes need to be rebalancing.
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    Belraug Fire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    these are my observations and thoughts on the matter, I welcome everyone's thoughts as well. I just find it rediculous that ever class was gutted and then there's Sam god tier in damage. What happen to earning that #2 spot on the Aggro table with your perfect rotation and skill? I just saying is all classes need to be rebalanced.
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Everyone already knew this, this isn't new information. They were advertised and designed to do massive amounts of damage with high potency finishers because they bring 0 utility to a group or raid. They are also far and away from being easy to play optimally, if you want the highest damage a samurai is capable of producing you really have to work for it. No one that kept up with the news of the new jobs is surprised they are on top.
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    Belraug Fire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    From what I have seen, they are easy, their rotation is as simple as a tank rotation. every other melee dps has more than one page of rotation, but I see that your mainning a Sam so your are biased.
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    Void Fang
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Only class that comes in a close second is blm and only because of Foul being as crazy as it is.
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