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    Saraphin's Avatar
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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    Hrmm now something feels weird about the pitch a card macro... Only thing i can think of would be a CD post use on Minor Arcana being longer than 30s, and that seems weird if their both single target and sharing card draw space with spread and royal road. More clarity, still leaves that weird nagging in the corner of my mind tho. Unless the "card ditch" and Minor Arcana are actually the same thing and just conveyed poorly in translation.
    (will Edit more)

    According to Early ToolTips, Minor Arcana is a 35s CD, so plausibly every card (or not, depending on if you're already gotten your "save card to do RR/Extend/etc") that isn't what you're exactly looking for? and then there is sleeve draw, which does all the things (not overwriting cards you already have) and gives you another minor arcana (current released tool tip is 120s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    That's exactly what I'm saying. From people who played the media tour, Spire and Ewer were AOE effects without the use of a expanded royal road effect.
    Probably done to make Ewer and Spire more desirable to us.

    So take the added usefulness of these two cards, the new Minor Arcana which effectively makes every card useful in SOME way. And things like Earthly Star which takes the previously exclusive to WHM Assize, supercharges it and pumps it up to 30y which is ridiculous.
    I don't know if theyre doing this on purpose, but AST seems beyond broken.
    As Exiled says, the tool tips from the Media tour did say that they were already in AOE, so they're quick one offs now, not having to be burned to have an AOE.

    I had an FCmate going off about now broken this new buff is and how he thought it was fine...(3.2 i think he said? 3.3? it was roughly 3am and i was runing on fumes. so i don't recall the exact patch number) before some of the buffs.

    As many have said here, why would WHM (healing or DPS0 matter when there is Balance (or other ultilies).

    if WHM is supposed to be this great and holy healer..I'm not seeing it. not with preliminary numbers or with people crunching the CURRENT numbers with CURRENT abilities. WHM is just lacking. it has been for at least 9 months and the new Lily Gauge and System seem, as many have said Lackluster.
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    Last edited by Saraphin; 06-09-2017 at 04:30 AM.

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    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraphin View Post
    (will Edit more)
    According to Early ToolTips, Minor Arcana is a 35s CD, so plausibly every card (or not, depending on if you're already gotten your "save card to do RR/Extend/etc") that isn't what you're exactly looking for? and then there is sleeve draw, which does all the things (not overwriting cards you already have) and gives you another minor arcana (current released tool tip is 120s.

    As Exiled says, the tool tips from the Media tour did say that they were already in AOE, so they're quick one offs now, not having to be burned to have an AOE.
    35s is about usable every time, if Lord/Lady stay as mildly strong single target potencies 500 is between Cure 1/2 and Bene 1/2 in potency, so holding it would be worth much. And a single target OGCD damage is pretty much drop and forget anyways. Leaving 35s about the time it takes to draw, GCD and check card, Redraw, GCD and check card. So assuming you use Lord/Lady right away, itd be up within 3-6s of redraws card being available. Assuming your fighting the GCD at the time as well, not in a space with breathing room.

    As far as I can tell youll still need Ewer/Spire RRd to AoE the other cards, just not if you use the card itself as is. Question would remain, how will Ewer/Spire interact with current Royal Road effects? Will potency and duration retain its as is aoe nature, or revert it to single target, what will aoe modifier do to it?
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    Otshi Shaliel
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    The JP tooltip is still the same for Ewer/Spire, there was a reddit post about it, the cards haven't changed at all.
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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    35s is about usable every time, if Lord/Lady stay as mildly strong single target potencies 500 is between Cure 1/2 and Bene 1/2 in potency, so holding it would be worth much.
    sorry i was thinking of something else, just went and looked at the newest tooltip or whatever, it's a very short CD

    trying to think what was 35s, but looking...i just can't figure it out now. maybe it was on another class i'm looking into the tooltips about...
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