Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[OcieKo]

You get an ability called Minor Arcana that you can use to convert any card to Lord/Lady (50% chance both ways). You use it instead of throwing away cards now. Not exactly the vision I had for AST (which involved abilities that reduced RNG), but works well for me. I'm pretty sure Lady is single target btw, and I'd probably just use it like a lustrate.

Plenary Indulgence, to me, is going to replace the concept of following a Cure2/Adlo up with a tetra/lustrate/essential. I think it has like a 15 second cooldown, so maybe WHM just uses Cure 1 following by Plenary Indulgence now as a preference over Cure 2 until you get Cure 2 proc. In that situation, it would make up for the potency difference. So, that looks like MP efficiency and higher dps GCD count to me.

I think you and I have 2 different mindsets though. In my mindset, I raid as either WHM or AST. If the abilities on the job do not do anything for me, they are a waste/garbage/clutter/bloat. For example, extra range on an AOE heal does nothing for me, because my group already grouped up together well (in range) by default. If one of the 2 jobs has abilities that I or my group cohesively would rather have in raid, I will just use that job. No big deal. The only thing I advocate for is that SE do some balance work so that decision becomes situational and not just 1 job all the time.

Something feels missing in the Minor Arcana then, because it was confirmed their basically giving us a built in right click drawn card buff as well, if minor arcana was meant to fill in for wasted cards this would be unnecessary, guess itll be a wait and see, outside of coin flip odds and heal va dmg. There might be something in there slowing the use of the card itself. Do we have any solid details on how the Lord/Lady is distributed to an ally? Is it another Spread like button or a 2nd click on minor arcana like draw. Is it tied to our regular hand out of a buff. Once I have more clarity on this I can speculate more, I cant lie asside from the skills in a bubble most of my more practical use research has been going to Melee DPS and Tanks.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Waiting 10 seconds is probably good enough for SE to triple the healing potency of the spell compared to Assize >.>
Funny enough, it's damage potency is weaker than Assize. If WHM is the pure healer, shouldn't Earthly Star deal more dmg but heal less than Assize?
I don't get this.

As for Lord and Lady, the main effect of this isn't really what effect it gives, but the fact that you now are able to "use" every card you draw. This almost completely eliminates the main drawback of AST. RNG cards. Now no matter what, you'll always get something to use. Either a heal that's 100 potency weaker than Lustrate, or a 300 potency attack.

Combine the usefulness of this with the fact that Ewer and Spire are now AOE, honestly AST really has no dud cards. Even drawing Spear is helpful in some way now.

I still see the heal on Earthly Star dropping to at least 700 if not less just for its sheer radius. ASTs personal DMG has always been kept on the low and expensive side to compensate for our buffing potential, I dont see that changing going forward.

Lord/Lady thoughts in the other reply.

Ewer/Spire, more clarity on what your trying to say please. At the moment it feels like your saying if i draw Ewer/Spire and use it ill be able to hit everyone. If your referring to Ewer/Spire switching places with Spear/Arrow for Royal Road way back, theres a lot of ways of looking at that. In one way, it made actually using Arrow for the speed buff more useful, on the other hand it made Ewer/Spire harder to use for the refresh given that AOE Royal Road is quite nice. Still dont really see a spot for spear to be super useful outside of using it to replace it even faster.