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  1. 06-16-2017 10:29 AM #1
    Valknut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    1. The first Balance is almost guaranteed because you can set it up pre-pull, meaning there is exactly 0 RNG of having Balance during the opener.
    2. As you say yourself, it's highly unlikely that you don't pull Balance again during that fight, letting WHM fall even further behind again.
    One expanded/balance is guaranteed if your party is willing to wait.
    Having a 2nd expanded/balance in a 6 min or less fight is very unlikely.
    When only 3 of your 6 cards are desired, and 2 of those 3 are to expand one, then why aren't AST bitching about all this unless bloat they have? Spear and spire are worthless. Bole is great, but it doesn't increase DPS. Arrow is a shotty balance. Cool I can't wait to use my one viable card combo!

    Mean while at the start of the fight Chainstratagem will be up, and when its CD is up, it will be used again. mean while the AST has tossed 4 cards to the floor and has been sitting on just his expand or just his balance.
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  2. 06-16-2017 08:20 AM #2
    VanilleFang
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    I haven't heard anything about them removing Cure III. Why is everyone so sure they have?
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  3. 06-16-2017 08:22 AM #3
    Verdan
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I haven't heard anything about them removing Cure III. Why is everyone so sure they have?
    I DON'T KNOW BUT I'M AFRAID
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  4. 06-16-2017 08:22 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I haven't heard anything about them removing Cure III. Why is everyone so sure they have?
    Because it was missing in tooltip screenies.

    Personally I think that it's replacing Divine Seal in the Job quest rewards, but we'll soon find out.
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  5. 06-16-2017 08:23 AM #5
    VanilleFang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Because it was missing in tooltip screenies.

    Personally I think that it's replacing Divine Seal in the Job quest rewards, but we'll soon find out.
    Ah.

    That's what I thought was happening. That it was just replacing DS. I really hope so. =/ It would suck if WHM lost ANOTHER spell.
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  6. 06-16-2017 08:30 AM #6
    Seraphyna
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I haven\'t heard anything about them removing Cure III. Why is everyone so sure they have?
    The overcure trait ( for cure III) has been removed and apparently the skill was missing during some of the expos.

    And yes, skills and traits that have been removed are still listed on the datamined lists (stoneskin, shroud, divine seal, stone with heavy, etc. are listed as well)
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  7. 06-16-2017 08:35 AM #7
    Metsonm
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    I had a look at some of the datamining posts on Reddit to make sure. It's still there, don't worry.
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  8. 06-16-2017 09:02 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metsonm View Post
    I had a look at some of the datamining posts on Reddit to make sure. It's still there, don't worry.
    While I'm not saying they removed Cure III, it being in the datamining doesn't mean we still have it. Everything is still there, removed or not.
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  9. 06-16-2017 09:24 AM #9
    Metsonm
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    Well, I'm not seeing Stoneskin on this list so I'm gong to say I'm pretty confident they have it.
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  10. 06-16-2017 09:45 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metsonm View Post
    Well, I'm not seeing Stoneskin on this list so I'm gong to say I'm pretty confident they have it.
    If you look at the raw ability list it is still there. The same with Scourge, Shrouds of Saints and a lot of other removed skills.

    They won't simply remove things like this from the data to avoid a major headache with bugs and errors.
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