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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Various raid/savage examples...
    Correction: WAS our strongest AoE heal. Now you have to figure out your way around it, assuming it is truly gone. It's not like I never casted cure 3 even in the content I run. I am not denying that it can be useful. Please don't mistake my words. I would use this ability when it was optimal to do so. Unfortunately, the windows hardly presented themselves, and even if it did and I missed it, I found another way. You are a healer, and from what I understand about this role in the amount of time I've been doing it, is you play it optimally by making the most opportune decision according to the situation, at any given time. Go ahead and correct me if I am wrong.

    Also, when did I ever compare my experiences with savage content? Did I not implicitly state how far my experience goes? Do you see me weighing examples of one content to another? No no, my friend. Let me ask you to not use your savage clears as a means to discredit my posts. I fully acknowledge that I speak for the other 95% of content in this game, and if you want to shove the other 5% down my throat and tell me it's the only content that matters, our interactions end right there. Despite my self criticism I consider myself a pretty good healer, and I know I am capable of assisting with clearing savage content. But you only need read through various posts in this thread to know exactly why I stay away from it. As for Earthly Star, ASTs needed something comparable to Assize, 'nuff said.

    If you truly feel that Cure 3 is needed in savage, then I will believe you. I can imagine how great it would be to say over voice chat, "stack for cure 3" and everyone listens. I mean, that's amazing! But it is still presumably gone. So what are you going to do? Sulk? Unsub? Or be innovative and figure out a way around it? If your highly coordinated efforts are even half of what you say they are, you'll find a way. Myself, and the devs have faith in this. I've been part of several mmos, and have raided in other games, so I have somewhat of an idea. That said, I know the playerbase is intelligent enough to figure things out.

    It's going to be ok. Ok?
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    Last edited by Gemina; 06-15-2017 at 02:58 PM.

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    Imbri Undinare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    It's going to be ok. Ok?
    No, it's not OK. I want the job to be fun, not just OK. This is why I don't play scholar. I don't find it fun. AST is looking to be a hell of a lot more fun than WHM is shaping out to be and a lot of the DPS jobs too. Hell PALADIN looks more exciting than WHM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    No, it's not OK. I want the job to be fun, not just OK. This is why I don't play scholar. I don't find it fun. AST is looking to be a hell of a lot more fun than WHM is shaping out to be and a lot of the DPS jobs too. Hell PALADIN looks more exciting than WHM.
    Ok, play another job then.
    Game isn't even launched. Can this post be closed now?
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    Last edited by Caduagm; 06-15-2017 at 05:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Hmm. What's all the fuss with Cure 3? Hasn't a major part of the dismay towards WHM been that giving WHM more heals instead of raid utility a major flaw? You feel like they just keep pruning WHM? So will the argument now be, "not only did they not receive raid utility, but they also took away Cure 3"? It seems that the arguments adapt according to the tooltip. Interesting.
    You know what I love? I just LOVE having abilities taken away from me! It feels great! Just take everything away and give it to other people, and then tell me to sit down, shut up, and stop crying because it's not that bad and here's a shiny ball (except it's actually a shiny ball covered in bull crap. Yes, there's a shiny inside, but I have to muck about with a bunch of bull crap to get there). It's my absolute most favorite thing in the world. SOOO glad that you and so many others came along to make it happen

    /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaellok View Post
    You know what I love? I just LOVE having abilities taken away from me! It feels great! Just take everything away and give it to other people, and then tell me to sit down, shut up, and stop crying because it's not that bad and here's a shiny ball (except it's actually a shiny ball covered in bull crap. Yes, there's a shiny inside, but I have to muck about with a bunch of bull crap to get there). It's my absolute most favorite thing in the world. SOOO glad that you and so many others came along to make it happen

    /s
    Glad I can help

    In all seriousness, your post sounds exactly like the whiney statements the devs are plugging their ears to. Yup, they've taken everything from you, leaving you to blame lil 'ol me for your woes. Are you going to unsub now?
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    And, hm, stone 4 nerfed...
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    Balance is still 20%, so there goes that :/
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    Apparently the dev team actually wanted to remove protect from the game too lol.

    Twinfinite: For all of the actions that were removed, the development team clearly believed it was for the better that they were gone. However is there a job action that you will miss or something that you maybe tried to save from being removed but were overruled?

    Yoshida: The opposite was true [he successfully saved one]. The Protect spell, there were talks within the dev team that “oh we don’t want this anymore” and he (Yoshida-san) felt that as Final Fantasy you have got to have that spell [Protect]. It would be weird if we didn’t have it.
    http://twinfinite.net/2017/06/ffxiv-interview-e3-2017/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Apparently the dev team actually wanted to remove protect from the game too lol.
    That honestly wouldn't even be that much of a loss. Since it's got a 100% uptime anyway, except after death, what difference does having it implemented in the game or not make?
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    I kind of wish they did get rid of Protect since it's a spell that doesn't really impact the combat experience in a meaningful way. Or if not removed, have it reworked to function similar to the upcoming PvP version.

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