Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Mahkii]

You missed the point, and what I said. That content, especially raid content, is 8-man content. There's always 2 healers. It's not about designing any 1 healer to be able to handle it. But rather something that can only be handled by both healers, together. That's why I said both healers spamming.

But why would I bring a WHM when I could have The Balance and Chain Stratagem?

[Saraphin]

But why would I bring a WHM when I could have The Balance and Chain Stratagem?

This will be the thoughts of possibly 80% of premade groups for 8man raiding and the 24 man super savage. (i can see people kicking until they get the healers they 'want' not what they're 'given' by DF/RF)

[dark494]

But why would I bring a WHM when I could have The Balance and Chain Stratagem?

Because you're overselling chain stratagem as a buffed version of battle litany, when it could likely be a garbage version of it that isn't worth bringing (multiplicative vs. additive).

I'll be laughing too, because even if it did have crazy healing requirements in raids, WHM can't handle it any better than AST can. Or or you going to be that one guy casting Cure II fishing for confessions while your entire party gets nuked. (And even Plenary can't heal everyone, only those with confessions stacks lmao)

I'm getting kinda tired of people skipping over the part where I said both healers. Not something that can be handled by any 1 healer by itself.

[Mahkii]

Because you're overselling chain stratagem as a buffed version of battle litany, when it could likely be a garbage version of it that isn't worth bringing (multiplicative vs. additive).



I'm getting kinda tired of people skipping over the part where I said both healers. Not something that can be handled by any 1 healer by itself.

That is a valid possibility. However, have you noticed how many jobs had crit-procs added to their job mechanics? Look forward to crit stacking.

[dark494]

That is a valid possibility. However, have you noticed how many jobs had crit-procs added to their job mechanics? Look forward to crit stacking.

And yet SCH has had rng crit adlos since 2.0, and I've never seen anyone complain about that ever. And those rates never went higher than 20% on average at over 1000 crit.

And if you're wondering how I got that number, crit rate is: ((CRT-354)*0.0233)+4.9511233 thx Dervy

[Mahkii]

And yet SCH has had rng crit adlos since 2.0, and I've never seen anyone complain about that ever.

Don't mistake what I said as a complaint. I stated it as an indication of what we can look forward to happening.

[magnanimousCynic]

And yet SCH has had rng crit adlos since 2.0, and I've never seen anyone complain about that ever.

SCH doesn't need their adlo to crit in order to use certain abilities.

[dark494]

SCH doesn't need their adlo to crit in order to use certain abilities.

I agree, that may change for the better. I just find it somewhat hypocritical of people decrying RNG anything as the worst thing ever when both of the other healers have had RNG mechanics in their kit since their inception and people think they're the best things since sliced bread, critlo is amazing, cards are amazing, except when rng doesn't give you a critlo or gives you nothing but ewers and spires for days, but I've never seen anyone really call for sweeping revamped changes to both jobs because RNG is a terrible idea. I fully expect it, but that doesn't mean I agree with it.