Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Though brought up and sorta already a thing for other classes, why didn't the WHM get Haste? It's the absolute most iconic buff in the series and just so happens to be... White Magic!! Seems like a no-brainer. Just make it strong and simple (Moar speed, reduced cooldowns, movement speed boost), like the WHM should be.

Speaking of obvious iconic things, what about Pray? With phrases like Plenary Indulgence, Divine Bension and Confession, pray seems to fit very well. Perhaps make it channel that grants confession, lilies and a refresh for WHM. It's a little strong, but you would also not be healing or attacking. It suits the class's reliance on HoTs, and gets rid of healing gated by RNG.

Also, Bubble. TEMP HP. More lillies = more temp HP. (If you can't tell, I like this idea. XD)

Originally Posted by KingFrost

Though brought up and sorta already a thing for other classes, why didn't the WHM get Haste? It's the absolute most iconic buff in the series and just so happens to be... White Magic!! Seems like a no-brainer. Just make it strong and simple (Moar speed, reduced cooldowns, movement speed boost), like the WHM should be (should be).

Haste, Reflect, Shell, Faith, Bravery, Dispel, Bubble even Berserk could be casted by WHM in older games.

Originally Posted by Atlantasia

Lucid Dreaming will at least cut enmity by half like Shroud of Saints did, but if WHM is going to be stacking Crit... heaven help those tanks because the over heal is going to nab it a ton. Crit WHM is a beast with aggro... and the second Lily trait encourages WHM to go full Crit if they're going to make use of lilies at all. >___< That's actually something I haven't seen touched on in this thread and it's bothered me quite a bit. :/

As of Right now, because i got booted from a static for refusing to go go AST or SCH as a healer, I am a Crit WHM, i'm currently at 920 Crit but i'm no where close to full melded. I'll assume i'll get another 100-150, depending on what i get to stick. However, with this mechanic, you're not going to see the WHMs in tomestone gear. Why would we? will any stat other than Crit be worth it? Or Direct High Rate, if we get the bonus off that? oh...wait...Crit Only, i don't think DHR "mini-crits" count...so i wouldn't use them. I'd be grabbing Crafted Gear that I can full overmeld Crit for those...rare, tiny 5% chances.

I did a sample last night, just to see how much I personally crit. out of 100 times, i crit...exactly 30 times. that's 30%, with my current Crit of 920. I asked around, most of my friends that are currently running WHM at at least 30 behind me in Crit, if not MORE because they melded 300+ ACC. (which converts now, yes, but also doubt they're going to change over and we don't know if we get the 5% on the Direct High Rate 'crits' and really *care* about the gear too much.)

So, That math, for SotL 2...ends up to be a 1.5% chance on every heal (based on Crit Rate times 5% proc rate) this is of course independent of the 20%, but if one happens, the other wouldn't. So i assume Codewise it's something like This:


Cure 1:
Crit
Y = (Insert code about rolling, 5% or less = Lily)
N = Move to Next

(insert Code about Rolling 20% or less for Lily)
(Insert code for rolling 20% or less for Confession Stack)
(insert Code about Rolling 15% or less for Free Cure)

Cure 2:
Crit:
Y = (Insert code about rolling, 5% or less = Lily)
N = Move to Next

(insert Code about Rolling 20% or less for Lily)
(Insert code for rolling 20% or less for Confession Stack)



I'll be honestly, i'm not a math person (and had to ask my fiance about the chances because someone in a Twitch Chat went "Stop whining, you'll get SOME sort of proc 50% of the time".

So alright, I put the future Husband to the task.

based on MY Numbers (apparently you invert the %'s and multiply them, to figure out exactly how often you will *not* get a proc. it's math, analytical Math. he has his master's in it and programming. I, as someone who math does not like, allow him to explain it to me) with my 920 Crit, and the numbers presented...have a 46% to get...a proc. No idea which one. or any idea if it's going to be the one i wanted (i only got 8 Free Cure procs out of those 100 Cures). Now this number obviously is only with Cure 1, Cure two is a whole different thing...and at 1am, i didn't have the time to take a cure 2 "Crit" sample. However, if I use the same "numbers' we did on my crit, add the 20% for lilies and 20% for Confession, Cure 2 will...have a 37% chance to proc a lily.. and if don't cast Cure because we're DPSing and our Regens/Medica 2s are working, the chances fall off to 0% (because this is the playstyle that has been adopted by most)

Mind you this is all RAW (Read as Written) from the Tooltips we have now, so subject to change, etc etc, legal stuff to cover buttocks in case something changes.

If anyone would like to know, i'll be glad to do it, but...this is also based on my Crit Rate, not what i'm looking at the average for WHM is (which, among those i talk to is at least 30-60 behind me, because I have the Crafted Star Velvet arms...with Crit Vs in the 100% and Crit 4s in the others...and not everything melded...which would make it worse...)

*Slowly looks up what she's done*

Does that mean "Pure Healer" also means "Crit Healer to Die first because Tanks can't do anything over the aggro generated from Crit Heals and Crit Salty Stone IVs"? will this also make WHM become the Squoooshiest tank ever? because that much Aggro generation from all those crits...owie...i'm seeing Swords, fists and arrows to the face in my WHMing Future. (and this already happens with many well geared tanks as it is...) does that mean we're going to be using these new Confession stacks on ourselves while the tanks flail around trying to get hate? does not look pretty in the least bit.