Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[13unny]

Is it honestly that hard to wait 10 seconds for it to go off?

Cast, tank does big pull, entire party gets 900+ potency heal.

Then, SCH gets one that auto casts once the target hits 50% health and it heals for 650+ potency.

WHM has been gutted.

We have to use 4/5 class action selection to get back what we have had since 2.X and the fifth for Swiftcast and even then we will be missing actions like Stoneskin.

All I can do is laugh at anyone who doesn't see how overpowered SCH and especially AST is compared to WHM.

So they have the weaker aoe heal in terms of time. No point in say SCH because they can do that for both sides....

You didn't address that the 900 potency heal is weaker in terms of WHM aoe timed heal. Or that with back to back AoE WHM will outshine AST still as they do not need to spend mana to heal really big AoE attacks back to back.

How were they gutted they lost nothing skills xD I do not think you know what the term gutted is!

[Vaelin]

So they have the weaker aoe heal in terms of time. No point in say SCH because they can do that for both sides....

You didn't address that the 900 potency heal is weaker in terms of WHM aoe timed heal. Or that with back to back AoE WHM will outshine AST still as they do not need to spend mana to heal really big AoE attacks back to back.

How were they gutted they lost nothing skills xD I do not think you know what the term gutted is!

White Mage has the LEAST amount of spells now after the changes, and lost Divine Seal, Esuna, Protect and Cleric Stance. They had NO replacements to those skills, so right now White Mage has been gutted. We now have the least amount of actions of any job in the game. If you can't see what a crappy predicament white mage is in and still seek to claim AST has it's problems compared to it, you're delusional.

[13unny]

White Mage has the LEAST amount of spells now after the changes, and lost Divine Seal, Esuna, Protect and Cleric Stance. They had NO replacements to those skills, so right now White Mage has been gutted. We now have the least amount of actions of any job in the game. If you can't see what a crappy predicament white mage is in and still seek to claim AST has it's problems compared to it, you're delusional.

Protect, Cleric Stance, Esuna, and Divine Seal are still there. So not really gutted, only two of those were really used mid fight and well both got buffed lol
If talk core class skills WHM only really got Swiftcast from old tree. Virus and EfE were bad on them since they didn't have the trait. So they gained so much more power from before! I mean SCH lost upgraded Virus/EfaE/Esuna. Was already stupid astro and nothing to share so they stay in the same boat where as now it is more even across the board!

Again WHM wasn't gutted in terms of skills, Hurts more when AST/SCH both lost Aero. On top of that since WHM has so many mana regen skills now they do not have to take Lucid Dreaming and can simply take Largesse where AST/SCH might not able to even take that if Esuna becomes a thing or Rescue.

[Vaelin]

Again WHM wasn't gutted in terms of skills, Hurts more when AST/SCH both lost Aero. On top of that since WHM has so many mana regen skills now they do not have to take Lucid Dreaming and can simply take Largesse where AST/SCH might not able to even take that if Esuna becomes a thing or Rescue.

The fact that you just said a WHM doesn't even "have to take Lucid Dreaming", (which is our only way of getting MP back besides Assise) speaks volumes of how delusional and fundamentally ignorant you are to White Mage. It's a waste of energy even replying at this point, since it's clear you don't have the capability to understand even the painfully obvious issues at hand. All I can ask is you spare other people such redundant and superfluous answers.

[13unny]

The fact that you just said a WHM doesn't even "have to take Lucid Dreaming", (which is our only way of getting MP back besides Assise) speaks volumes of how delusional and fundamentally ignorant you are to White Mage. It's a waste of energy even replying at this point, since it's clear you don't have the capability to understand even the painfully obvious issues at hand. All I can ask is you spare other people such redundant and superfluous answers.

Um You also forgot about Thin Air XD seems you're the one that is delusional since you're forgetting that they can save 7965 mana when ressing! 8 casts of cure 3 which is 13432 mana. That is almost 100% of my current mana pool which is 14,159 mana with 767 Piety! I do not know how much more mana saving you need then near 100% mana pool xD
In terms of DPS they can save 5040 mana (maybe more since dont know how much spell speed is shown when casting stone 4) though that is still 3rd or 33% of WHM current mana pool!
When you add in the fact they also have Assze + SCH needing mana regen from Range DPS they would be fine in terms of mana regen!

[Aramina]

Um You also forgot about Thin Air XD seems you're the one that is delusional since you're forgetting that they can save 7965 mana when ressing! 8 casts of cure 3 which is 13432 mana. That is almost 100% of my current mana pool which is 14,159 mana with 767 Piety! I do not know how much more mana saving you need then near 100% mana pool xD
In terms of DPS they can save 5040 mana (maybe more since dont know how much spell speed is shown when casting stone 4) though that is still 3rd or 33% of WHM current mana pool!
When you add in the fact they also have Assze + SCH needing mana regen from Range DPS they would be fine in terms of mana regen!

The fact that you think Thin Air will be used on Cure III or even Stone IV shows how blissfully (for you I am sure) ignorant you truly are.

[13unny]

The fact that you think Thin Air will be used on Cure III or even Stone IV shows how blissfully (for you I am sure) ignorant you truly are.

Why wouldn't you? You're going to save it always? Nope you're going to use it most likely when you have the most time. Most of the time this will be at the start of the fight! So you are going to use Presence of Mind + Thin Air to get most casts you for DPS, while saving all that mana.

I mean what else are you going to use it on? I was saying Cure 3 also simply because cost the most mana out of WHM AoE skills. I know you don't need to cast 8 times in a row but was showing what it can do in different scenarios!

Best way for astro to cast chain spells is with lightspeed which is only going to cost them 795 per Helios cast! Casting Helios 8 times will cost 6360 vs 0

I forgot about Holy!! 7 cast of holy is 12,376 mana!