Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

I suddenly had the urge to post this quote in reference to the amount of cures used...







This just seems to me that the way White Mage is played, isn't the way the devs envision it played.

And it seems that their vision wasn't the most efficent way to play it.

or they just undertuned the current dungeons so much that keeping some regens rolling is often more than enough to heal through any of it.
they clearly have a running theme of wanting groups to only pull ~3 monsters at a time in these previews and could easily crank up the damage a lot so that actual curing is necessary like in raids
divine benison tooltip is just redundant in restating how way of the lily works
plenary indulgence seems really cool even single target it's a sizeable free ogc heal on a short cooldown
and if you happen to have it on more targets its a bonus (should be 100% though, its clearly a discipline priest from WoW nod)

the only thing i don't particularly like is the 20%, too low of a percentage to be reliable.
could just as easily made the lilies grow in 3 steps so it's a hard "every 3rd cure" and way of lilies II just reduces cooldown whenever one 'blooms' or whatever

the other healers have weird things too. earthly star is dropped on the ground and detonated like a bomb and has a 10-20s window after using it for it to be potent.It's not just a "better assize", It's quirky as hell.
and sleeve draw randomy fills your draw, spread, royal road, and minor arcanum with various effects(but apparently won't overwrite)
It's basically just a second chance at a 30s skill on a 120s cooldown unless the stars align and give you the perfect combination. I'm betting the odds of bole bole bole are about 1 in 3 too

With all the weird datacenter / game-play changes after collecting pre-orders, we're going back to 1.0 decision making it seems. What a sad meme.

Please rethink your aproach before all the whm jump to the shiny dps roles and further destroy your qeues yoshida-san.

Originally Posted by TheLastDream

i use Cure1/2 all the time...... in Level 30-50 dungeons... Maybe that's where that want us to shine, old content!

You don't get the lilies till 62 so your dream is dead

The fact that it's Skyrior somehow makes it sadder, like a clown shedding tears with everyone.

I just want to point out that it's been, at minimum, confirmed by dengenki that diurnal sect was mistranslated, and is a 10% heal buff not 15%. And many many more things were wrong, and others changed in newer builds (live letter) since the media tour. Don't take any values/numbers seriously, majority of them are already different and will continue to change by release.

I've mained WHM since 2.0's launch. I've raided on it since T5 was relevant content... I stuck with it even through A9-12s... I was disappointed in the changes with HW, but I remained hopeful for a balance for WHM with SB. Something to make it more unique and actually wanted in raids!

Now, that hope is dashed completely. :/ And I'm not very excited about the expansion anymore. AST is all well and good... but it's never been my WHM. I've never once changed my main. Well, unless this gets fixed, I'm done with WHM. I have to level it for my retainers, but that's it. Done after that, I'll be raiding on AST from now on.

Originally Posted by KarstenS

You missed the worst part of Confession:

These stacks don't build up on yourself. Your healing targets (only when healed with Cure1&2) get the Confession stacks. So you have to build up the Confession stacks on every single party member you want to heal with the Lvl 70 Skill.

Even more worse is this buff only lasts for 30 seconds without refresh.

Don't forget the 20% chance for you even GET a confession on them. Gotta nail that coffin in properly!

I could cry.

Originally Posted by dark494

I just want to point out that it's been, at minimum, confirmed by dengenki that diurnal sect was mistranslated, and is a 10% heal buff not 15%. And many many more things were wrong, and others changed in newer builds (live letter) since the media tour. Don't take any values/numbers seriously, majority of them are already different and will continue to change by release.

It would take adding entirely new abilities, rather than just fiddling with a few numbers, to make this mess fun to play. I mean, it's good to know that AST isn't as much better than WHM as initially thought but it's not going to stop my decision to drop WHM when the core 4.0 mechanics are so inherently lacking.