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    Why Lilies are Not WHM's friend...

    Last post we listed the likelihood of getting a lily proc. However those number are a bit misleading when you factor in what it is the Lilies actually do...

    We all should know by now that lilies reduce the recast timer on the next single use of one CD on this list:
    • Divine Bension - 15% shield on a 60 sec recast
    • Asylum - A 6 yalms radius, 100 potency fix-area-of-effect regen for 24 sec on a 90 sec recast
    • Assize - 300 potency aoe heal and aoe dmg on a 60 sec recast
    • Tetragrammaton - 700 potency single target heal on a 60 sec recast

    We learned it's very likely to get at LEAST one lily in a 30 sec window off of 3-5 cure gcds, which is applicable in all game content (FATES, hunts,dungeons, 24-man, extremes, progression raiding, raid farming). And avg of 58%!! HOWEVER the issue isn't the likelihood of getting a lily....it's what 1 lil can do for us . One lil expunged on one of the 4 listed cds will reduce your recast time by 2 sec for your 60 sec recasts and 3sec for Asylum's 90 sec recast (Actual reductions are 2.4sec and 3.6sec respectively if SE allows fractional reductions). So let's put this all in perspective "you have about a 58% chance that your next CD used will be on a 58 sec recast (or 87 sec recast for Asylum) SE PLEASE.... what are we gonna do with 2-3 sec ~50% of the times we use ONE of our cds????

    BUT WAIT!!! You don't like 2-3 sec nominally? How about 5 secs reduction off of Asylum and Assize? Does that sound nice!? IT SURE DOES! But....they made it 20% off a crit....lulz. Let's put it this way. Even healers that stack 1k crit rate stats only avg 12-15% actual crit rate. So if you're only gonna proc 20% of the time off of an already 12-15% of the time crits, then you might as well bank of getting 2+ lilies while you're at it (the chances are virtually the same!!) LOL Basically Go back to the first post with the rates and multiply everything by 12-15% (assuming you even have 1k crit stat on your healer gear...). The numbers are bad. So don't count on getting that 5 sec...

    My issue again isn't at all the rates!! It can be stuck behind this kind of RNG; but making it REWARDDING!!! Yes getting 1 lil is very very likely, but a 2-3sec reduction on JUST ONE CD is very very underwhelming...

    Meanwhile getting 2+ lilies will be a miracle and getting the proc off crits will also be a miracle, but make these miracles FEEL like a MIRACLES!!

    SUGGESTIONS
    • 1 Lily: 10% (6-9 sec off of your 60-90 sec cds isn't GOOD but it isn't BAD...it's just ...Hmm... and that's ok!)
    • 2 Lilies: 25% ( decent....might be better at 30%....but 25 is decent!)
    • 3 Lilies: no recast!! (OP result for an impossible odd!)
    • 20% chance of reduction off crit cure rewards needs to either be able to stack! Meaning you can get multiple 5 secs off! or give us a flat 10 sec off.
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    Last edited by javid; 06-03-2017 at 10:00 PM.