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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    WHM is fine it has bigger stronger heals, better aoe range. It doesn't need to be a cookie cutter copy of AST or SCH. Not everything needs to have utility spells. WHM is suppose to be the pure healer job and that was it looks like they are going for.

    My group we cleared A12S pretty early on and we had a WHM as a main healer and I was Paladin. People have said that both PLD and WHM were bad yet we still cleared savage many months ago.
    Diurnal and Nocturnal Sect have 15% increased healing potency.
    Earthly Star has a base potency of 150/650 to damage and healing respectively; 200/900 if executed ten seconds after the initial cast.
    Plenary Indulgence necessitates Confession stacks, which only trigger through inefficient Cure spam. Meanwhile, Lady of Crowns converts fodder cards into a 500 potency heal.

    Although White Mage narrowly retains its aoe healing dominance, Astro pulls ahead as the better single target healer. Unfortunately, the Lily mechanic actively punishes you for utilizing aoe heals since you only get procs through Cure and Cure II. So, pray tell, what part of this is "fine"? No one is arguing White Mage won't be able to clear Savage. It's simply woefully inferior to Astro and Scholar. For a job that is supposedly a pure healer, it doesn't even heal as efficiently as its counterparts. That's how poorly implemented things are. People aren't upset because White Mage isn't raid optimal. They are upset because there is literally nothing White Mage offers that both Scholar and Astro don't somehow do better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Diurnal and Nocturnal Sect have 15% increased healing potency.
    False? I could care less about this argument atm, b/c no one is going to win. BUT we do not know for sure if Diurnal is 15% or 10% yes I know not much of a difference, but thanks to this:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._japanese_and/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamimarik View Post
    You missed the one with Nocturnal, but as of the German media tour which Famitsu has pulled this from, Nocturnal is 15% and Diurnal is 10%. Yes, these numbers are subject to change. But that doesn't mean that they will change either so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    You missed the one with Nocturnal, but as of the German media tour which Famitsu has pulled this from, Nocturnal is 15% and Diurnal is 10%. Yes, these numbers are subject to change. But that doesn't mean that they will change either so...
    Well I didn't miss Nocturnal b/c like you said that hadn't changed from the quote I quoted, so ok? But again... since so many people want to use these potencies as "the gospel truth" so many people fail to realize, this all is not finalized yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamimarik View Post
    False? I could care less about this argument atm, b/c no one is going to win. BUT we do not know for sure if Diurnal is 15% or 10% yes I know not much of a difference, but thanks to this:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._japanese_and/
    Aha! Fair enough, though the point remains. Even 10% pushes Benefic above its Cure counterparts.
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