Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by Fernosaur

I am now so scared that SCH will be nerfed to the ground LMAO.

YOSHI P PLS DON'T TAKE MY AETHERFLOW AWAY I'VE BEEN A GOOD BOY.

To be fair, if they adjust the cost of Adlo/Succor a little, we might be fine with that and mana recovery from Energy Drains. As it stands, there's no real reason for it to cost so high when AST can do the same better for less. We have hardly any info yet, but if that really is a better Shroud, there is no way SCH will keep its Aetherflow mana recovery. That would be way too OP.

On topic, I'm also going to reserve judgement on WHM. I feel like their moves will have a lot of additional effects, and until we know about those it's near impossible to speculate where it will end up. I still have a little faith that they're not going to kill one of the most iconic jobs for an entire expansion. I will, however, say that their new animations look extremely uninspired. It was certainly the most bland showcase of all the jobs.

My usual response to that is 'who cares about raiding?'

Originally Posted by fujiwuji

My usual response to that is 'who cares about raiding?'

A lot of players who look forward to challenging content?

I've gained the impression that those sorts of players are concerned about challenging content to the exclusion of all else, including actually enjoying themselves playing a video game. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but for myself, I find the normal content enough of a challenge as it is. I find it hard to believe the sky is falling simply because my favored WHM doesn't have the new, shiny toys of AST and SCH.

Originally Posted by fujiwuji

I've gained the impression that those sorts of players are concerned about challenging content to the exclusion of all else, including actually enjoying themselves playing a video game. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but for myself, I find the normal content enough of a challenge as it is. I find it hard to believe the sky is falling simply because my favored WHM doesn't have the new, shiny toys of AST and SCH.

All right. I'll bite. So tell me. Why would you take a WHM/SCH over SCH/AST or a WHM/AST over SCH/AST? SCH/AST can heal perfectly fine because they have to be able to be in order to perform their main role- healing. Besides that, both have utility AST has its card buffs including everyone's favorite Unbalance, and SCH has shields, fairy buffs, and all that (I actually forgot all that SCH has because I never really liked the job so I don't play it >,<; )

Originally Posted by fujiwuji

I've gained the impression that those sorts of players are concerned about challenging content to the exclusion of all else, including actually enjoying themselves playing a video game. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but for myself, I find the normal content enough of a challenge as it is. I find it hard to believe the sky is falling simply because my favored WHM doesn't have the new, shiny toys of AST and SCH.

Well, sorry to break it to you, but... class balancing doesn't really matter in, say, Gubal (HM) because literally every class/team composition can clear that, so of course we are mostly concerned about high-end content where something like that actually matters. Yet, many people, like me for example, love their class and want it to stay relevant in this kind of content.

I know we've all seen new, flashy things and we want to speculate, but there really is hardly any info to suggest where WHM is going to end up. SCH and AST certainly looked more interesting, but that doesn't equate to them being more powerful.

For example, that faerie tether looked very interesting, but it could also be an indirect nerf. No more auto-embrace casts, and you have to tether to someone for the fairy to actually heal them. Whether that's the case or not, we don't know yet, but the point is that we really don't have enough info to speculate. For all we know, those WHM AoE instant casts could be heals tied with buffs, or just straight up buffs. I don't think we can look at the cross role system and assume that because WHM has given up tools that it means they are losers in this system change. Another example, all healers are getting Lucid Dream (a better Shroud according to a Reddit translation), which is a buff to WHM mana regen, but could be a nerf to SCH again if they lose Aetherflow mana regen.

Wait... I didn't see any mention in the live letter of stoneskin being removed...

In fact... since I didnt see Stoneskin on the shared role action list, it seems like Stoneskin and Stoneskin II will be exclusive to WHM in 4.0

Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

Wait... I didn't see any mention in the live letter of stoneskin being removed...

In fact... since I didnt see Stoneskin on the shared role action list, it seems like Stoneskin and Stoneskin II will be exclusive to WHM in 4.0

Well we kinda need to keep those since SCH and AST both have shield equivalents of their own. Question will be-- will they give us the old Graniteskin trait back... probably not T_T;