Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Jonnycbad]

WHM will likely get fixes and AST will likely get nerfs. Remember how fast MCH and AST were buffed upon 3.0's release.

[Lunaxia]

No, the right answer is : tell us why you think the new WHM changes are amazing.
I'm very curious about this. From my point of view the new WHM... Well... /sigh

I truly would like to see someone try to argue why 4.0 is competitive/ improved/ viable in any way. AST has an equivalent for all of our skills and they have higher potencies.

I have an alt you see.

I'm sure you do.

[Cedane]

While this is disappointing on the changes to white mage, I say - WAIT. Level the class first. Get the numbers, compare, see how it plays for you. Then, make it known.

Hold off the RIP signs until we play it.

[Lexia]

Well raiders are not usually "casual" players which is what this game caters to.

[Iepuras]

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You make a valid point, and apologies if my post seemed more salt than helpful. Was more directing it to Javid. As for how it would work out I don't see it being a problem in dungeons. Main concern would be in the raid area. As is at the moment it can be seen as another emergency heal for the mt/ot and the lucky few who happen to have stacks at the moment. It being a 15 second cooldown is also nice, and all this reflects SE "pure healer" direction SE has decided to take with it. It feels like another tetra with lower cooldown and we have to build up. Also RNG.... /sigh

[Nix]

I admire your attitude! I don't know if I'll be going near WHM in its current 4.0 state tbh. I do like Thin Air, it'll be boss for some DPS burst, but there's something so wrong about WHM healing being dependent on procs. It's almost like we're being forced into a rotation (Cure II > Cure II > Cure II) to be able make full use of our kit, which is effectively the opposite of optimal healing.

Haha thanks!
I'm hoping that once we actually get to try it out, it'll play a bit smoother than we thought. I know MP is an issue now but I'm also hoping that we will still be viable, and maybe we can find a way to separate us from other healers D: I think our HoT are still going to be pretty formidable though! I would be sad if they gimped those <_>

[SachiBear]

I don't really have much to say...other than I'm really disappointed. I've always loved WHM and it has been my main class for 2 1/2 years now, but with these questionable changes, I think I'm going to play something different. Like, why would they think this was okay? I have more on my mind, but I don't think it can put it into something that could be read clearly, so I'll refrain.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I'll level WHM in Stormblood, and I'm thinking about sitting out healers all together.

[javid]

Precisely. You and Sebazy have it correct, given what the tooltip is showing

Actually it's not precise. But SE can make it precisely say what YOU think it means with one just a few more words.

for example it could read

"Restore's HP of all nearby party members. Potency varies with current [individual's] confession stack(s)."

The way it's worded now makes it ambiguous who's confession is in question? Is it one confession determines everyone's potency? or is it every confession stack for himself??


And if it's actually "individual confession only heal"; then it's just a nice lil shorter cd to Tetragram for MT healing..........not horrible but doesn't seem to fit the plan to make the hotbar less cumbersome giving us a shorter recast but also weaker potency tetragram....that has an EXTREMMEEEELLYYY rare "perk" that it might heal 1 or 2 other person(s) too......



EDIT

I just saw the PI used in a video and it's and aoe that affect everyone with personal confessions. The video had drg with 1 stack of confession and the whm with 0; then WHM (clearly in range) activated PI and it cured the drg and removed his confession; meanwhile the Whm did not gain any heals during that action- since the whm had no personal confession stacks........

[JainaDKana]

Thanks SE for ruining a fun class to play. I wonder how many people are going to stop healing completely now? Should make queueing for Roulette fun.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

While this is disappointing on the changes to white mage, I say - WAIT. Level the class first. Get the numbers, compare, see how it plays for you. Then, make it known.

Hold off the RIP signs until we play it.

I wish I could be optimistic, but numbers won't make any difference. It doesn't matter if our heal potency gets buffed (and so far AST seems to exceed WHM in that regard) more healing doesn't address the problem. Healing was never WHM's problem. They do it well and have an excess of tools to do it with. Its the lack of things outside of healing that hurts WHM. Losing Stoneskin only exacerbates that and getting no group/raid dps buff of some sort leaves WHM seriously lacking in usefulness compared to SCH and especially AST.

Once the hp recovery threshold is met (and all healers are designed to be capable of meeting this threshold) then whatever utility you have beyond that is what determines your value to the group. When it comes to what they bring to the table, why take a WHM over a SCH or AST? What does WHM bring that AST and SCH don't?