Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Looking at all the changes as a whole, I have a funny feeling SE is going to introduce more RNG mechanics in FFXIV. They know WHM is kinda useless in FFXIV yet they are doubling down on the design. This tells me they may be changing combat design instead of job design to make WHM work, and this includes randomized damage spikes and less scripted fights

Originally Posted by Velox

and this includes randomized damage spikes and less scripted fights

And most people love the scripted fights... if that's the case, and they're upping the damage and frequency players take it... the salt will be all over the forums.

We can't derive.....we can assume though. Our responsibility once the game comes out is with raw data keep SE accountable for making all the healers balanced. And balanced doesn't have to be homogenous. There are ways to make the healer combos offer a difference style. However even if all combos are even, meta will still default....lol

I mean... is there a small chance with what was said regarding "the more lillies we get, the shorter our cast times" also being linked into the barrier which just happened to be party wide. Something like that could give us a edge in the utility department if it was both spell/skill.

Originally Posted by Belhi

Won't that just screw over AST or SCH instead and push WHM to being mandatory? I don't really see that as a good fix. Plus they pretty much said they are aiming for about the difficulty of Creator.

I am note sure WHM barriers will stack with SCH and AST ones. SCH and AST barriers don't stack. Stoneskin did but it wasn't practical to use during combat unless you had a long down period to cast it 8 times and even then it was a pretty weak barrier spell.

If content is as easy as Creator, we're screwed by default. There's not a single thing in that place that needed big heals, even with progression gear on.

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

If content is as easy as Creator, we're screwed by default. There's not a single thing in that place that needed big heals, even with progression gear on.

Well Creator was far more successful in their eyes than either Midas or Gordias was. They are adding an ultra hard mode in 4.1 but honestly if the only place in the game where you need big heals is in the very hardest content in the game, don't you think the toolkit is probably a bit too powerful for the gameplay provided? What is the point of having powerful new heals if there is almost no where they are actually needed?

Originally Posted by Belhi

Well Creator was far more successful in their eyes than either Midas or Gordias was. They are adding an ultra hard mode in 4.1 but honestly if the only place in the game where you need big heals is in the very hardest content in the game, don't you think the toolkit is probably a bit too powerful for the gameplay provided? What is the point of having powerful new heals if there is almost no where they are actually needed?

That has been the point many of us WHM have been arguing this whole time. We don't need heals. We don't need to be pure healers. We need some utility and something to mix up in raids

Originally Posted by Belhi

What is the point of having powerful new heals if there is almost no where they are actually needed?

That is exactly what we've been trying to say for 18 pages now lol. The extra healing their toolkit provides is completely unnecessary for nearly all of the content we have, if not ALL of it. It comes off as extra overhealing that benefits no one at all. This is exactly why a pure healing identity will never work. It's simply not needed.
To be fair Balance is not "needed" either, but what would you prefer? Overhealing, or a 20% buff to everyone?