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    Mattelot's Avatar
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    Mattelot Leviathan
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
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    As someone who works in business and has overseen training, it's human nature. We try to accommodate to the simplest person. Other MMO games I have played, people love to say "do research." Statements like that are too vague. People are playing a game. They want to pick up a controller (or keyboard/mouse) and "play." Many do not want to feel like they have to be a scholar (no pun intended... yeah... kinda) in order to play a video game. Sure, more serious players look things up but to what extent? People read guides on how to do this raid or that FATE. Somebody at one point had to endure those things without a guide. What if there were no tanking stances at all? Imagine how much more complicated it would be to hold threat and the small % who could still do it would post their "git gud" replies.
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    Claymore65's Avatar
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    Cress Valorblade
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    Many do not want to feel like they have to be a scholar (no pun intended... yeah... kinda) in order to play a video game.
    I understand keeping things simple but..."update your gear to the latest vendor armor and use the latest free weapon given to you by class quests" and "start with a shield lob and two flashes, then mix in flash every once in a while" is not something so massively difficult that the average player can't do it. Sure, they might struggle a little bit through Satasha. A decent player will at least attempt to give advice at that point. There's no shame in not mastering your class from the beginning, and most new players are reasonable enough to take advice. Give a little advice, and they'll be better off in the long run than letting them crutch on a tank stance many levels before it's important.

    Plus, keep in mind the penalties for failure are extremely small at that level. In Satasha, most other classes can take a beating for awhile. Healing in Satasha is literally "Cast a Cure every 30s or so". The punishment for failure isn't likely to be a wipe.

    Normally I dislike "git gud" replies, but we're not asking new players to spend hours looking up and mastering perfect rotations. It's literally "Tell them to use flash" and "use decent equipment". That's all there is to it. If they still can't keep aggro, then the problem likely lies elsewhere. Maybe it's high level DPS not focusing on the same enemy, or a healer just spamming Medica. Now, I'll admit that the 30-40 range for Paladin is pretty rough (Shield Oath should come before Sword Oath), but that doesn't last long either.
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    Last edited by Claymore65; 06-10-2016 at 05:09 AM.

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    Player
    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    As someone who works in business and has overseen training, it's human nature. We try to accommodate to the simplest person. Other MMO games I have played, people love to say "do research." Statements like that are too vague. People are playing a game. They want to pick up a controller (or keyboard/mouse) and "play." Many do not want to feel like they have to be a scholar (no pun intended... yeah... kinda) in order to play a video game.
    Yes, "do research" can be the wrong thing to say. The more correct response in those cases is "play the game". Spend some time doing your class quests and a couple of dungeons and you'll figure things out pretty quick.

    You want to hold threat better as a low level GLA? Use Flash! The Class Quests tell this to you, but god forbid someone should need basic reading ability to play a game.
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