Give Tanks Tank Stance at Level 15

[Kingsnake661]

it matters for the tank. it's no fun to be unable to do your job, especially if you just started with tanking and that's the only experience you ever made as a tank. a new tank should have fun while tanking and the early lvls should be kind of easy. a new tank should be motivated instead of frustrated.

I guess it depends on the person. The fact i keep losing threat forced me to try harder. And in turn, i think i'm better now for it. *shrug* I wasn't frustrated, i was motivated. But people are different granted.

[Anienai]

If punching a coconut doesn't open the coconut, then it doesn't take a genius to figure out that further punching the coconut will not result in you ingesting it's deliciously creamy white liquid.

-Kaeoni 2016

Been sitting on that one for awhile?

[Jpec07]

I can't remember if I've replied to this one yet or not (and I can't be bothered to look), but if I have, my views have likely changed from "somewhat disagree" to "neutral."

For funsies, I went into DF roulette on my well-geared DRK, with some really well-geared folks from my FC, to help introduce our new friend to dungeons. We got into Tam Tara and I was kind of surprised at first just how much enmity our BLM and SMN were able to pump out at that level. Even Unleash spam only gave me a slight edge on the big pulls I was doing, and it made me realize that a poorer-geared tank (read: a tank in leveling whites and vendor gear) might not be able to keep up.

I've thought about how challenging tanking was for me, leveling through the content in 2.55 for the first time before they buffed tank enmity. I've thought about how it helped me learn how to generate more enmity, and how to cycle through my targets to secure my hate lead. It taught me the importance of marking the target kill order, and clicking off of Regen and healing statuses before any pull. I've thought about how damage spikes from big pulls taught me how to use my cooldowns effectively. But even with these lessons, which were hard-taught by what was then challenging content for me, and even with competitive gear, I was still having to fight a lot harder than I'm used to in that dungeon run.

I didn't need my stance at 15, but I've been tanking in some form or another for six years, and I know how to think about threat/enmity, and how to keep track of it and keep ahead of it with a limited toolkit. But new tanks might not have that knowledge and experience to draw from. I enjoyed how much work keeping hate was in 15-40 content, but new tanks might need that crutch. So, for my part, I'm neutral. I can see both sides, and both sides have merit, and I will not bemoan any change or lack thereof.

[technole]

That only works after Haukke for Adloquium, and Selene's recharge means any fight with multiple spaced out statuses have some that just slip past. Also, there's an entire guildhest based around statuses and esuna that SCH kinda get shafted on.

Obviously, since after Haukke is when you become, you know a real Scholar. Regardless, even before Scholar-level dungeons and tests, it's still not a big deal for that guildhest. You have Eos Whispering Dawn available from level 1. That is way better to avert poison HP loss and party heal better than a CNJ has to offer at the level. Low-level healing Scholar is undisputedly the king. Leeches is just a nuisance but you have even better skills to not struggle with poison, ever.