Give Tanks Tank Stance at Level 15

[Chyro]

Well.. then at least that lv43 -gladiator- I had in stone vigil recently would've had tank stance.. xD

I do agree that tanks in the very-low level dungeons should have it easier to do their job.
It's silly how it's the only role that under some circumstances just can't do its job in these dungeons.

[Mattelot]

The penalty for the tank not having good threat at this level is pretty much the same as a DPS not having good DPS at this level.

Where is your source for this information?

Judah's statement is correct. The above actions are the highest potency GCDs that each class has, and not one of them is more potent than a tank's AoE generator, all of which are around 600 potency per target, without a tank stance.

Actually, it was one of those superfluous statements that people make when they want to sound like they're making a good point yet they're going off on a tangent.

[Hasrat]

Well.. then at least that lv43 -gladiator- I had in stone vigil recently would've had tank stance.. xD

And here I think you bring up another valid point. If tank stances are locked to jobs, what about players that choose to run as base class? Should they really be so gimped? Sure it can be argued that no base class should be used once jobs are unlocked. But that removes the player's choice to do so, for whatever reason.

[Launched]

If tank stances are locked to jobs, what about players that choose to run as base class? Should they really be so gimped?

They shouldn't even be allowed to queue for any dungeon or trial past Haukke.

[Judah_Brandt]

And here I think you bring up another valid point. If tank stances are locked to jobs, what about players that choose to run as base class? Should they really be so gimped? Sure it can be argued that no base class should be used once jobs are unlocked. But that removes the player's choice to do so, for whatever reason.

Are you serious??? With the stat and job skill detriments...you're actually saying it isn't fair that people actively choosing to play an inferior class are at a detriment? Get out of this thread lol.

[HoodRat]

Are you serious??? With the stat and job skill detriments...you're actually saying it isn't fair that people actively choosing to play an inferior class are at a detriment? Get out of this thread lol.

Tfw level 50 thm has higher single target dps than level 50 blm

[Violette]

Tfw level 50 thm has higher single target dps than level 50 blm

Tfw level 50 maru/glad/acn also can have higher dps.


Anyway, getting tank stance early would be detrimental to the development of tank players.

Giving them enmity bonuses early will make things too easy and not teach them to first jungle enmity, prioritize dps and watch the enmity meters.

Which will be very hard for tanks to learn if they're used to tank stance all the time

[SpookyGhost]

Tfw level 50 maru/glad/acn also can have higher dps.

Can't see lvl 50 GLD out-parsing lvl 50 PLD. Losing SwO and Spirits Within is pretty huge.

[Hasrat]

Point is game offers the option as a choice. Why should other classes be viable but not tanks without jobs?

[Ilenya]

Giving them enmity bonuses early will make things too easy and not teach them to first jungle enmity, prioritize dps and watch the enmity meters.

Wait wait wait...DPS are the ones that need to be juggling enmity here so they don't steal hate, not tanks. A tank's job is to always have all the enmity, no juggling involved. Saying the tank needs to be the one watching the enmity bars, while they need to (so they know when they lost something) is ridiculous, because the DPS should be watching to make sure they aren't stealing hate.