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  1. #1361
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    giantslayer's Avatar
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    Colette Pascal
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wadoka View Post
    Do Rouse and Spur stack? Or is it better to apply them consecutively?

    As luck would have it, I was just testing this yesterday. Wind blade was averaging 650 with no buffs and 1300 with both. They do stack multiplicatively, so together they are 96% instead of 80%.
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  2. #1362
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    Takaokami's Avatar
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    Takao Kami
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    Are there any guides on PVP skills? Which ones should we spend exp on first? Which ones are useless and so on...?
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  3. #1363
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    Cherub's Avatar
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    Floating City of Nym
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    Miasma Eschaton
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Takaokami View Post
    Are there any guides on PVP skills? Which ones should we spend exp on first? Which ones are useless and so on...?
    Wither is the most important one. You get both upgrades for it.
    Aetheric Burst you'll want the CD cut, the SS reduction and Extended debuff duration isn't what you're going for so you pass on them unless you really want them.
    Mystic veil you get the third Upgrade. In 4vs4 you also get the first upgrade for safety purposes and cutting the healers range or the casters/rangeds range. The second upgrade isn't needed.
    In 4vs4 you get equanimity fully. In seal rock you pass on them.
    In 4vs4 you get mana draws second upgrade for more Ruin III spam. Might wanna put 4 points less into equanimity and cut CD of mana draw with that instead. Up to you.
    Purify is an absolute must.
    If you have anything left, VIT trait.
    If VIT is full and you still got points left, INT.

    In seal rock I only get mystic veils third upgrade, purify, aetheric bursts CD cut and both wither upgrades. The rest goes into VIT and INT.
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  4. #1364
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    Zaj Quilos
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Hi guys

    quick question. When is the best time to use Raging Strikes and also when is the best time to use Enkindle? I see some rotations using it in DWT but i find the cast so tempermental i'm worried about wasting seconds trying to get it to work!

    thanks!
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  5. #1365
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    Milka Mampf
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    raging always with aetherflow dwt 3D combo
    enkindle whenever its up (should be paired with rouse)
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  6. #1366
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Milka_Mampf View Post
    raging always with aetherflow dwt 3D combo
    enkindle whenever its up (should be paired with rouse)
    The first enkindle should be applied with RS+DWT+Rouse+Spour for 1,2*1,1*1,4*1,4* 250 pot = 2,59 * 250 pot = 647,5 potency or even 712,25 potency with TA. That's around ~7000 dmg (uncritted) I think.
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  7. #1367
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    giantslayer's Avatar
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    Colette Pascal
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    The first enkindle should be applied with RS+DWT+Rouse+Spour for 1,2*1,1*1,4*1,4* 250 pot = 2,59 * 250 pot = 647,5 potency or even 712,25 potency with TA. That's around ~7000 dmg (uncritted) I think.
    I am pretty sure RS and DWT don't apply to pet damage. If that is the case, taking time to pop oGCDs for your pet may actually make you lose DPS elsewhere, especially in DWT.

    Enkindle should generally be used with both Rouse and Spur since those do stack for 96% additional damage. It's a little trickier later in the fight since Spur and Enkindle won't be ready at the same time.
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  8. #1368
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    ShaolinMike's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Michael Stormcloud
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I've noticed some videos on YouTube of people using rotations other than the old 2F1P and 1F2P rotations from Hai Hai's 3.0 guide. Have there been any considerable adjustments made to what is considered the best rotation?
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  9. #1369
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    Brinzy's Avatar
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    Thabo Marandu
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    ^ Was coming here to post something similar. It seems like, at least for the opener, people have been using ED to get DWT faster for more burst. I guess it's done to use AF sooner. I'm not totally sure on any of this, however, because I've never actually researched my rotation. Think I'll try the dummy to get some ideas.

    EDIT: I managed to clear through the A6S dummy with a 210 weapon and ring, 230 chest and pants, and 220 everything else. Didn't use food nor potions. I couldn't come close to the A7S dummy... probably needed like another 20 seconds at that rate. I have no idea if this means I'm doing it right or not.
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    Last edited by Brinzy; 03-18-2016 at 08:41 PM.

  10. #1370
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    Keldion Duskwander
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    While putting my nose to the grindstone for maximizing damage on A1S and A2S, I stumbled across Kakashe's opener which utilizes ED to initiate DWT faster. He arranges a confluence of active cooldowns (RS, DWT, Drac Potion, raid buffs) to frontload exceptionally hard hitting attacks.

    http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-kakashe

    I have difficulty following his opener with 100% precision, but it helped me realize that delaying the first Aetherflow was an actual loss of damage.
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