Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Hivernica]

Hello, I've been a scholar main since 2.0 and recently things got a bit boring with my other jobs. Since I was a scholar I never really thought about summoner until yesterday. I read a bit of a guide and praticed Sleigh's opener in some dungeons and unsynced extreme primal, but summoner seems really hard. I have trouble with keeping aetherflow and aethertrail in sync during dungeons, but other players in my linkshells told me to just do the best I can because it's really hard to keep them in sync because there are too many variables, unlike in raids where you always have the same group with mostly the same pace. Also, I usually keep tri-disaster for reapplying my DoTs during DWT and use contagion on those, but I was wondering if the 10% was worth it or not. Any thoughts?

[ShaolinMike]

I wouldn't really sweat it in dungeons, since you're kinda at the mercy of how fast the tank moves between pulls. However, I would recommend trying to time your cool downs so that they're all available when you reach a boss. It's good practice for endgame raids/primals.

[MariaNyan]

Thought of sharing my dummy SSS-A8S run on my i220 SMN, you might learn one or two things there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aXL...ature=youtu.be

My opener looks like this, if you don't use pot you want to put rouse and spur into the pot-slot. I highly believe that this rotation is the right way to go. Since SMN is my offclass its stuck @ i220, but i can offer some fflog parses in pugs for some other numbers. http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/9#cla...&spec=Summoner

[Aiurily]

Thought of sharing my dummy SSS-A8S run on my i220 SMN, you might learn one or two things there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aXL...ature=youtu.be

My opener looks like this, if you don't use pot you want to put rouse and spur into the pot-slot. I highly believe that this rotation is the right way to go. Since SMN is my offclass its stuck @ i220, but i can offer some fflog parses in pugs for some other numbers. http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/9#cla...&spec=Summoner

you're doing 5 ruin33->ruin2 fester deathflare, not 6 ruin3->ruin2 fester deathflare. deathflare wasn't RS buffed either

[Takaokami]

My opener looks like this

Found an error in your opener, fixed it for you. Np.

[Kuponutz]

I think you forgot a few Contagions, at least 4 by my count

[MaeIsMean]

My old rotation with i220. should cover everything, dummy is a8s.

Are you talking about this one?

Thought of sharing my dummy SSS-A8S run on my i220 SMN, you might learn one or two things there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aXL...ature=youtu.be

My opener looks like this, if you don't use pot you want to put rouse and spur into the pot-slot. I highly believe that this rotation is the right way to go. Since SMN is my offclass its stuck @ i220, but i can offer some fflog parses in pugs for some other numbers. http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/9#cla...&spec=Summoner

[MariaNyan]

you're doing 5 ruin33->ruin2 fester deathflare, not 6 ruin3->ruin2 fester deathflare. deathflare wasn't RS buffed either

Moved RS one GCD behind, didnt notice o.O

Found an error in your opener, fixed it for you. Np.

so much contagion so much cancer!!!

[Judge_Xero]

My Problem is now to normalize this value and make it comparable to Crit/Det/SS. Maybe you can help me out.

I think it would be too hard to give an X value to it. If you are exchanging Pie for secondaries you are lowering your total damage % while increasing your PPS. Then you have to look at a specific fight to see if you could even take advantage of the additional MP, since as long as you have spare MP you can cast R3 anyway outside of Dreadwyrm.

I'll see if I can look into a best case scenario to see if it even be close to a gain.

[Judge_Xero]

@Thorhall

Quick napkin math - @ about 245 Piety would give you 1 R3 per minute + 2 additional casts of R3. Over 7 minutes that is 2.5 PPS. Giving you about a 2% increase in damage.

The equivalent secondaries would give about a 3.5-4% increase.

Consensus - not good.