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  1. #861
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    AriaEnia's Avatar
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    Aria Elunia
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Guys I have a problem with Ruin III. I am being in the fence, whether I use it outside of Dreadwyrm Trance instead of Ruin I and II and deplete your MP in a minute, or use it only when in Dreadwyrm Trance.
    When in Dreadwyrm trance, what I always do is using tri-disaster (I dont use tri-disaster as an opener) and probably refreshing Shadowflare, while in raging strike (I also don't use raging strike as an opener), and then contagion, then one Fester. I usually get to cast 2 Ruin IIIs in the uptime before I'm ending it with the Deathflare. Sometimes, I don't even have time to use Ruin III at all, because I have to dodge things. Am I doing it right? What do you guys think about Ruin III?
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  2. #862
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    Drakeos's Avatar
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    Drakeos Shadowbane
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Do Raging Strike > Tri-Disaster > Contagion > Fester > Painflare > Energy Drain > DWT > Ruin 3-4 times then Deathflare but then everything on CD so spam ruin 1 and throw in ruin 3 while casting Ruin 1 (double hit ftw)
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  3. #863
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I think that would be less optimal Drakeos.

    There are a few openers to chose and one of them should be used (with few alterations depending on fight).

    Outside the opener you should always do something like this (DoTs/Shadowflare kept up, Egi-Buffs on CD, yadda, yadda):

    Ruin2+Fester(last AF-Stack) ->
    Ruin2+Raging Strikes+AF ->
    Ruin2+DWT+Fester ->
    Ruin2+Tridisaster+Contagion*** ->
    3xRuin3 ->
    Ruin2+Fester+Deathflare

    ......delay 3rd Fester until 10s AA left, repeat.

    ***Since Contagion is a pet action it can be applied while Casting or any casting-animation, so you just have to click/press it right after Tri-Disaster. Trade one Ruin3 for Ruin2+Bane if you want to use Bane (i think this will happen mostly in A2) and Contagion is applied.

    Trade Festers for Painflares depending on content (e.g. Ravana butterflies, especially when on top of Ravana or stacked)
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 08-18-2015 at 04:05 PM.

  4. #864
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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    Yuni Azure
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    We need a smn dps leaderboard or something
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  5. #865
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    We need a smn dps leaderboard or something
    People are too busy progressing at the moment to care about leaderboards I think. Maybe once A4S is cleared, sure !
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    Kairi™

  6. #866
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    We should collectively beg Alethea to manage another leaderboard. I miss competing.
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  7. #867
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    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakeos View Post
    Do Raging Strike > Tri-Disaster > Contagion > Fester > Painflare > Energy Drain > DWT > Ruin 3-4 times then Deathflare but then everything on CD so spam ruin 1 and throw in ruin 3 while casting Ruin 1 (double hit ftw)
    Uh, save Tri-Disaster to apply your DoTs while Dreadwyrm Trance is active and then use Contagion to extend your buffed DoTs.
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  8. #868
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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    alright so choco milk has volunteered to do it after A4S, thanks!

    We should collectively beg Alethea to manage another leaderboard. I miss competing.
    I agree ):
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  9. #869
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    Mshtola_Khai's Avatar
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    Honey Apple
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 99
    Hello,

    I recently leveld summoner to 60 and I want to make this my main class and be concidered a good summoner I dont have to be the best I just want to be decent. It seems all the rotations out there that I can find are only the openers and I need some help figuring out what my core rotation should be.

    Right now the opener tat i use is: B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Aether + Enkindle > R2 > 3D > R3 > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare

    but once I do that rotation im fuzzy what what I should do.

    Thank you in advance for any help you can offer.
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  10. #870
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Pretty much same than me, but i do Enkindle after potion and apply tri disaster with miasma 2 because it is instant cast if using garuda(and because contagion make it same potency than ruin3). Fester inside DWT I usually wait until last seconds then using ruin 3 > ruin 2 > fester > deathflare combo because you can not do more than one fester anyway in dwt if you apply dwt just after fester painflare combo. You can freely use 3 festers in that minute when ever want, you do not need use it right after it run out from the cooldown. In the second DWT you can time 2 festers inside DWT and then you need drop your aethertrail stacks around 10 second before you use your third stack. That way you can use always 2x festers inside dwt but be carefully if the fight have bit downtime in that time you have 10 sec left, you can lose whole stacks and it is huge dps loss. Then it is like 2.0 rotatio for next 60 seconds.
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