Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Sidra]

It's already makes sense to use some Ruin3's outside of DWT. Being aggressive with your mana leads to better dps, and a lot of fights have downtime that lets you toss in some Ruin3s and not even feel the difference in your mana. This just makes it even better, and is a very nice Single target DPS buff in general.

Also...interesting note, I just went to my last A3S on FFlogs. When I look at my Ruin3 damage and multiply it by 1.667, and recalculate dps - it ends up being an overall 4.2% DPS increase. That's a pretty nice buff, and it didn't cost us any AOE.

On the downside for casters, that MCH Hypercharge buff is really strong. Gonna be less groups w Bard/Requiem so we may take personal dps hits, although it will lead to better party DPS.

[ShaolinMike]

Yeah I'm already hearing talking about running MCH + 3 melee DPS groups. I wonder how viable it will actually be.

[Sidra]

Extremely viable. It was already potentially the strongest DPS setup before the hypercharge buff. Now the potency is doubled, and the duration extended 5 seconds. 10% physical buff at a 25% uptime. Also note in progression, that it can still have a 25% uptime while using resource regeneration, whereas Bards lose Foe's uptime to ballad. So They may actually need a t11 type mechanic or two in the series where magic damage is needed.

[ShaolinMike]

They may actually need a t11 type mechanic or two in the series where magic damage is needed.

Yeah that's what I was thinking too.

[MariaNyan]

Hello guys,

i'm not an expert for summoner, but i've been wondering about some questions that i hope you can answer for me:

1. Using tri-disaster during/at the end of DWT instead at the start, would it yield a better dps increase, since you wouldnt clip the dots that badly in the opener? (ignoring the partybuffs-timings)

2. Using two aetherflowstacks in the opener (fester+painflare because of selfbuffs+partybuffs) instead of only one.

3. Using enkindle during DWT or rouse/spur - does it make any significant difference?

4. If bio is used at the start, clip bio again instead of ruin II - dpsloss or gain?

[Sleigh]

Hello guys,

i'm not an expert for summoner, but i've been wondering about some questions that i hope you can answer for me:

1. Using tri-disaster during/at the end of DWT instead at the start, would it yield a better dps increase, since you wouldnt clip the dots that badly in the opener? (ignoring the partybuffs-timings)

2. Using two aetherflowstacks in the opener (fester+painflare because of selfbuffs+partybuffs) instead of only one.

3. Using enkindle during DWT or rouse/spur - does it make any significant difference?

4. If bio is used at the start, clip bio again instead of ruin II - dpsloss or gain?

1. You lose Litany TA etc and due to how Contagion works there's not that much point to worry about clipping.

2. Depends on opener, IDK.

3. DWT doesn't have anything to do with Enkindle.

4. Depends on opener. Sounds unlikely.

[Cetonis]

I imagine that getting six R3s under DWT will at minimum involve doing a triple oGCD going into it, i.e. SC->RS->DWT --> R3, because that would eliminate the small gap that can exist between the completion of the second oGCD and the refreshing of the next GCD. Also some quantity of spell speed, of course.

If a sixth R3 under each DWT is worth ~132 potency per minute, the added SpS required should be worth around-abouts 15 effective INT in current terms. Translated into stat weights, this means that aiming for a SpS 'cap' would become worthwhile so long as that cap is ~750 or lower. All very very much in theoryland, of course. Not sure if some part of that might misalign with realityland; I'm definitely a noobish SMN in practice.

[Judge_Xero]

How viable is Ifrit on Sephirot? With all the raid damage is it enough physical to make Radiant Shield useful?

[raspberrytealeaf]

How viable is Ifrit on Sephirot? With all the raid damage is it enough physical to make Radiant Shield useful?

I've been able to clear Sephirot using Ifrit only, Garuda only, and also Ifrit through adds and swapping to Garuda for the last phase. Admittedly, I'm still trying to figure out how to play this class, but I don't see much of a difference DPS wise?

From my understanding, Radiant scales on your characters physical attack power so you will reflect low damage and your physical dps and tanks will reflect more damage. But the tanks' physical attack power went down as of 3.2 and they're the ones who are getting hit the most often. (The WAR in my static, at least, said he had more attack power with the same gear pre-patch.) Perhaps Radiant was stronger pre-patch? Edit: Btw, I should mention for Sephirot, he quits autoattacking during the final phase, so the only time the shield would be useful is when the sets of adds appear with the whirlwind.

[ShinryuReishiki]

I would just stick with Garuda. Contagion makes DoT upkeep during high movement portions trivial, can just mash Ruin II all day.