Please Add no bonus option for PF

[Andrea]

Give me a bonus member with skill over someone with no bonus but also no clue any day.

The people that want this have no problem with people who haven't cleared it, if they send them a tell with what experience they have in my case I've seen the majority be accepted in and things go ok.

Its a way to speed up getting a group together in the first place that hopefully doesn't fall at the first attempt because someone was new to the fight or didnt have the experience and joined anyway.

We know there are those without a clear that have the skill and know what they are doing to clear it, we aren't saying there isn't. But if you're seriously trying to say that there is a huge crowd without a clear that have something on farm status I don't know what to tell you, you're insane if thats the case.

[Divine_Intervention]

We know there are those without a clear that have the skill and know what they are doing to clear it, we aren't saying there isn't. But if you're seriously trying to say that there is a huge crowd without a clear that have something on farm status I don't know what to tell you, you're insane if thats the case.

Is an option to automatically block someone with bonus viable - probably, but will add to the already toxic community feeling.
Is every person with bonus a hinderance to your group - hell no.

See other posts where i've clearly stated people with bonus should ask if they can join, not just hop in.

I've made my opinion clear on this topic, other people have made theirs clear. I'm for and against it, but i'm not going to use anymore of my daily post limit on this topic xD . Take care o/

[Andrea]

I've made my opinion clear on this topic, other people have made theirs clear. I'm for and against it, but i'm not going to use anymore of my daily post limit on this topic xD . Take care o/

And I respect your opinion. Im not here to force people to my opinion.

And I agree the post limit is a highly stupid thing on these forums.

[Cold_Raven]

And I agree the post limit is a highly stupid thing on these forums.

There's a post limit?

*screws self*

Ha ha...

[Whiteroom]

I've made my opinion clear on this topic, other people have made theirs clear. I'm for and against it, but i'm not going to use anymore of my daily post limit on this topic xD . Take care o/

Can I pose this to you. I understand that you feel that this will make the community more toxic. But I think this is a knee jerk reaction.

Is it not the people who sneak in whos actions create toxicity? People do not like seeing the bonus in a farm because they understand what it means, in a farm you know all the mechanics (or at least you are supposed to) from constant trial and error wiping until you have it memorized. They have seen the wipes and wipes that come with clearing and getting to the farming stage. So when someone sneaks in for a clear, it is a dirty play and will justify a reaction.

This is what creates the toxicity towards bonus players in farms. If you remove the option for it to be created, you alleviate the problem.

An added bonus is that it may help spurr people into actually using PF to create thier own parties, giving more life to PF.

People always seem to think that this suggestion is barring people from content, and we need to get past this concept that they can't use PF to create their own groups. I'm currently struggling with sephex since I don't have a static, and I turn down all suggestion that we ditch my progression party for that farm one two slots down PF.