Please Add no bonus option for PF

[TheUltimateSeph]

Let us set our PFs to not allow people with bonus to join please. Would be so much better then parties falling apart over that one guy who thought they could sneak in.

[Obysuca]

Still won't stop the people who have it cleared who are terrible too and got carried >_> I've seen people who have a clear on stuff, still no clue how the fight goes and cause wipe after wipe. I went to do A8 the other day, we wiped terribly, so I thought "maybe someone is new", nope, no new bonus. So just think about that.

For all you know, that person with the new bonus knows the whole fight and does well, but got held back by all the bads and terribles. It's not always people with new bonus that cause the wipes.

[Andrea]

For all you know, that person with the new bonus knows the whole fight and does well, but got held back by all the bads and terribles. It's not always people with new bonus that cause the wipes.

Then he can simply send a tell saying he got to this % and the party leader will decide if they want to take the risk and go with him? Like people do already?

Its better than trying to join a party that asks for people to have cleared knowing full well you do not meet the requirements the party ask for.

[Khalithar]

Then he can simply send a tell saying he got to this % and the party leader will decide if they want to take the risk and go with him? Like people do already?

Its better than trying to join a party that asks for people to have cleared knowing full well you do not meet the requirements the party ask for.

This is what happened to me and I have to agree. I did Ravana Ex a lot but could never find a group with the dps to actually down him (the one time I had gotten close the healer popped the LB3 by accident so we hit the enrage timer and died), so I was still a new player according to the system even though I'd done that fight several times. Eventually I found a clear party and just explained my situation to the group leader and he let me in, finally got my clear that way.

[Radacci]

Still won't stop the people who have it cleared who are terrible too and got carried >_> I've seen people who have a clear on stuff, still no clue how the fight goes and cause wipe after wipe. I went to do A8 the other day, we wiped terribly, so I thought "maybe someone is new", nope, no new bonus. So just think about that.

For all you know, that person with the new bonus knows the whole fight and does well, but got held back by all the bads and terribles. It's not always people with new bonus that cause the wipes.

So i was in this Elite FC, for a bit, and joined a merc run for Titan EX, and they kept wiping, even though they were selling runs for ppl that couldn't clear it; the more hardcore the PF text, is, the worse the experience will be.
Another funny thing is that as time goes on, the ilv req goes up, but parties fail as much or more - people have this silly notion that high ilv=good player; sorry but you'd need 100k hp to survive failed mechanics, and even ilv 999 won't help you if wind doesn't go down.
So yah, no bonus option would do little if anything - it would just be annoying, cause i had to pester and convince people to let me join, when i didn't have clear, even though i could have farmed it, had i been given the chance.

[AlphaFox]

Kinda was my situation, group was wanting only people who cleared (but was in an LS) only reason they let me in was because one of their friends told them I knew the fight as I had ran with them prior but we enraged at 3%. I am not really against the option for a No Bonus check but the success rate of the group would still make me think its in the low percentile.

[Melondra]

That message was placed in the system in order for party's to know if they have new players in the content and for the other players to give them direction in order for everyone to be in the same page. The system was not designed for players to alienate other players because that new bonus message comes up. If you don't want to take that risk use the party finder system. That way you can create your own experienced party as you see fit. And for players joining these groups they should be honest. If you aren't fully 100% confident you have what they are asking for then you should not join a farming party. This the reason why both options are there. What needs to be done is weather or not that content is new or not let players query for it in the DF so that way they can at least learn it and gain some exp. You only learn by doing.

[Ashkendor]

If you don't want to take that risk use the party finder system.

The title of the thread reads "Please Add no bonus option for PF"

With a join date in 2012 I'd think you'd realize PF = Party Finder. o.O

That way you can create your own experienced party as you see fit.

That's exactly what the OP is asking for - the option to filter out sneaky liars via the system.

[ShadowHunterrX]

I see.... Anyway it's useless what you want OP. Like someone said before , some will still suck even when they cleared it. Bonus or not , less skill players wil still come.

[Alistaire]

I see.... Anyway it's useless what you want OP. Like someone said before , some will still suck even when they cleared it. Bonus or not , less skill players wil still come.

So because you can't rule out all bad players with the suggestion it's no use at all? Great logic.