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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    My response was Satirical, not in the domain of Hyperbole, get your Literary Devices in proper order.
    This thread is just chock full of arguing over semantics, parsing the OP's text, and picking apart each other's interpretations of the events. If you meet an underperformer (any role, not singling DPS out here), you can speak up, kick, carry, or leave. It doesn't matter why they're underperforming, or how you feel about it, those are your only options. State your piece or pick your action and move on, every DF group is as simple as that.
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seryl199 View Post
    This thread is just chock full of arguing over semantics, parsing the OP's text, and picking apart each other's interpretations of the events. If you meet an underperformer (any role, not singling DPS out here), you can speak up, kick, carry, or leave. It doesn't matter why they're underperforming, or how you feel about it, those are your only options. State your piece or pick your action and move on, every DF group is as simple as that.
    I wholly concur, but I stll have to agree that the OP was being Facetious without merit and that he should've just left or finished the run without said comment seeing how it got him kicked anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    I wholly concur, but I stll have to agree that the OP was being Facetious without merit and that he should've just left or finished the run without said comment seeing how it got him kicked anyway.
    Meh, the BLM was being lazy, the Op had every right to ask why she was being lazy. Not agreeing with the way he asked but still feel he has a right to ask why she was being lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Meh, the BLM was being lazy, the Op had every right to ask why she was being lazy. Not agreeing with the way he asked but still feel he has a right to ask why she was being lazy.
    Or misinformed and didn't understand the abilities, which is possible. Either way the right to ask was trumped by the line of questioning, apparent in the screenshot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Or misinformed and didn't understand the abilities, which is possible. Either way the right to ask was trumped by the line of questioning, apparent in the screenshot.
    If you dont understand your abilities why on earth are you doing content at level 60? Knowing what something does is the first thing you should do when unlocking a skill and if you don't understand your abilities and refuse to find out what they do you are indeed either lazy or incredibly rude to the other people you get stuck with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    If you dont understand your abilities why on earth are you doing content at level 60? Knowing what something does is the first thing you should do when unlocking a skill and if you don't understand your abilities and refuse to find out what they do you are indeed either lazy or incredibly rude to the other people you get stuck with.
    Or they are still in the process of trying to understand it? Maybe because there is no rule saying they can't join level 60 content without a complete understanding of their skills? Maybe they gave up trying to understand and needed help and that level 60 dungeon happened to be the first place someone did help them. Just because they don't understand something fully yet means they shouldn't be able to take part in content they have paid for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Or they are still in the process of trying to understand it? Maybe because there is no rule saying they can't join level 60 content without a complete understanding of their skills? Maybe they gave up trying to understand and needed help and that level 60 dungeon happened to be the first place someone did help them. Just because they don't understand something fully yet means they shouldn't be able to take part in content they have paid for?
    There is no rule, there is just etiquette and being courteous. You're actions affect 3 other people in a duty, so it's appreciated if you understand how to contribute effectively.

    Generally speaking, etiquette is never hard-ruled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    If you dont understand your abilities why on earth are you doing content at level 60? Knowing what something does is the first thing you should do when unlocking a skill and if you don't understand your abilities and refuse to find out what they do you are indeed either lazy or incredibly rude to the other people you get stuck with.
    That is a question posed for those players, as I do not have that answer. I agree with you that players should know the class they are playing by level 60, but you, and quite a few people here, are disregarding human nature. Just because you can reason properly and are conscious enough to comprehend, doesn't mean that another person doesn't need instructions on their bottle of shampoo.
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