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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Are you talking about the beautiful cut scenes? the fact that the primal's had actual emotions outside of just rage? or how MRD has Jump as a cross class?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laTHafKXMdU
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    People seem to overlook Ramuh (and Shiva if she counts) when it comes to primals having a conscience or emotion. It's just that most of the Primals are very hostile.
    Most Primals also never seem to care about their followers, so far the ones who do are Titan, Ramuh, Shiva and Ravana, maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    People seem to overlook Ramuh (and Shiva if she counts) when it comes to primals having a conscience or emotion. It's just that most of the Primals are very hostile.
    Most Primals also never seem to care about their followers, so far the ones who do are Titan, Ramuh, Shiva and Ravana, maybe?
    Actually most of them kinda do, even if only implicitly through side content (see: Beast Tribe related quests).
    It's just that some aren't outspoken about it (I recall Garuda calling the Ixali her children, for instance).

    The only ones that didn't seem to care much about their followers are Leviathan (who outright consumed that one Sahagin priest when he became aether) or Bismarck (who's more of a wild beast that consumes anything almost indiscriminately).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    Actually most of them kinda do, even if only implicitly through side content (see: Beast Tribe related quests).
    It's just that some aren't outspoken about it (I recall Garuda calling the Ixali her children, for instance).

    The only ones that didn't seem to care much about their followers are Leviathan (who outright consumed that one Sahagin priest when he became aether) or Bismarck (who's more of a wild beast that consumes anything almost indiscriminately).
    Garuda and Ifrit don't either really.

    Both use them for power, nothing more, nothing less. If they were to suddenly stop granting that, they'd become as hated as everything else. Incidentally, the ones they "love" are all fully tempered, so the only way they can lose them is through death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Garuda and Ifrit don't either really.

    Both use them for power, nothing more, nothing less. If they were to suddenly stop granting that, they'd become as hated as everything else. Incidentally, the ones they "love" are all fully tempered, so the only way they can lose them is through death.
    Even so, they do grant their followers some of their own powers (e.g. tempered weapons and totems from Ifrit or the ability to power up flying ships from Garuda).
    If they truly didn't care about them, they wouldn't have even bothered granting some of their..."magnificence", so to speak.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    Even so, they do grant their followers some of their own powers (e.g. tempered weapons and totems from Ifrit or the ability to power up flying ships from Garuda).
    If they truly didn't care about them, they wouldn't have even bothered granting some of their..."magnificence", so to speak.
    They don't. They care about themselves. Having followers that die from anything that looks at them funny isn't a good thing. Having followers that can conquer and expand their influence, bringing them more fodder for tempering (and thus more power), on the other hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    They don't. They care about themselves. Having followers that die from anything that looks at them funny isn't a good thing. Having followers that can conquer and expand their influence, bringing them more fodder for tempering (and thus more power), on the other hand...
    So I guess shiva is basically evil huh? The primals are manifestations of the host/hosts wills and use crystals as a form of sustenance for their sustained life time.. If summoned for assistance, they'd do just that (shiva, who risk their life for peace >_>) if summoned for protection they'd also do that (titan). Most of the primals we seen were summoned for an evil cause. Bigger primals like alexander were originally made to create a moving home (i think i heard from the story) but the gobbies decided to activated it to mess around. Kinda makes me wonder how much aether we actually need, considering black mages use it like candy and summoners suck it up like no tomorrow (aether flow). I'd doubt the planet would end due to mass aether absorption. Makes me wonder how much aether was required for dalamud to nuke us into the next era. srry for little rant but yeah.
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    N'rhuna Veraan
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    That fact that you can only point to one summoned Primal (ignoring for the moment Ysale and Thordan's self-summoning shenanigans) as an example is sort of the point, actually.
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