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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    This is awesome... Why couldn't we have this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO2QFM2a8PQ

    Original titan cutscene for 1.0. You can see why the Warriors of Light do what they do. You can see that Titan cares about the Kobolds. You can see how angry he is and what a fierce fight this is going to be.

    Where was that story in 2.0? Why did it get cut out? It's both beautiful and terrifying. Makes me respect Titan a whole lot more!
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    1.0 was so amazing. Miss it so much, especially during this patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melisande View Post
    1.0 was so amazing.
    Did you play beta and the first 3 months? O.o?
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    Quote Originally Posted by melisande View Post
    1.0 was so amazing. Miss it so much, especially during this patch.
    Man, how long have I been gone?
    Just last year no one would be able to say this without getting chastised to hell and back.
    Heck, I remember when we used to blame XIV's issues on executive meddling. You know, forcing the Crystal Tools engine, forcing the game out before it was complete, a lack of overall strong management for the company as a whole.

    Such where gilded times of vivid hope and stalwart dreams.
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    I'm honestly more curious how the person how their own 1.0 local server.
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    Wow...kinda makes me wish we could reason with these primals. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    Wow...kinda makes me wish we could reason with these primals. :/
    I guess thats what was planed in Tanakas version.
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    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    I guess thats what was planed in Tanakas version.
    No idea who that is....but I wish he'd supervise xiv :/
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    Last edited by Kurogaea; 01-01-2016 at 02:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    No idea who that is....but I wish he'd supervise xiv
    1.0/FFXI producer, took the fall for 1.0 because SE decided to put it out early before everything was finalized, then we got Yoshi-P who supposedly saved the game by turning it into a generic WoW clone with a FF skin.

    Sorry, what I meant to say was: TANAKA IS THE DEVIL INCARNATE, 11 IS GARBAGE, HE RUINED XIV THANK GOD HE WAS FIRED PRAISE YOSHI-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    1.0/FFXI producer, took the fall for 1.0 because SE decided to put it out early before everything was finalized, then we got Yoshi-P who supposedly saved the game by turning it into a generic WoW clone with a FF skin.

    Sorry, what I meant to say was: TANAKA IS THE DEVIL INCARNATE, 11 IS GARBAGE, HE RUINED XIV THANK GOD HE WAS FIRED PRAISE YOSHI-P
    tanaka vision had a lot of shortcoming, between the exp rate and the land that was garbage, the lack of true content even.... how can we say him vision was good? even FF11 was far more polish at it release than was V1..

    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    To answer the OP:
    I can see how this kind of cutscene could be problematic in ARR's story. In ARR, we are the obvious heroes. The beastmen who don't want to summon their Primals are okay, but every other beastmen is a target and summoning a Primal is "evil" (because Aether drain) without ever wondering WHY the tribes summon their Primals in the first place. The Circle of Knowing tells us "They are bad and you are good so go and defeat them" and we just obey. We should probably try and get rid of the REASON the beasttribes do those summonings, but instead we only deal with the result of the original problem, not the cause. It's like dropping bombs on a country to get rid of terrorists without thinking about what made people terrorists in the first place..
    actually if you look at all the cut scene it's explain why the tribes summons them primal:

    - Titan: the kobold and limsa had a treaty saying that the land of the island was for the kobold, but after the mess of dalamud, Limsa have stated to colonize the land pushing the kobold to them last place.... actually they are forced into that mess, Y'shtola snaps at the admiral about it.
    - Ramuh: he is the less agressive one, actually the sylph was attacked by the imperial army and since they was alone and pushed too (in the V1 you have a scene where the imperial literally invade the sylph territory), in the present day the imperial have litterally a base at the entrance of the sylph territory, then in despair they have summons Ramuh. by the way, the sylph under ramuh aren't aggresive if you don't invade them territory.
    - Ifrit: is the less clear, but even this one was called because of the war between uld'ah and the beastman.
    - Leviathan: if you do the Sahaghin quest you learn how the people of limsa have been quite hard on the sahaghin, leading them into an extremist reaction. they was needing shore for raise new born and was slayed.
    - Mog: it's explain too that mog was hunted by the imperial leading them to the summoning of them primal.

    each of them was even more affected by the massive destruction done by bahamut, it's important to remember that it was the human that did this... leading the beastman into a frightneed states.

    you don't need to make them look less evil, they had legitimate reason to do what they have done, however the summoning have lead them to be controled and loose them own will.... worst it's not possible to free them to that control.... they are evil and victim.... what make the situation quite strange.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 01-01-2016 at 07:00 PM.

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