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[darkstarpoet1]

but it isn't wow as well, and it shoudn't be a game that is so easy you can call it a cash shop game, cause your 16bucks is paying for the gear and weapons. it's so easy ..your monthly bill is what keeps it easy and hands you your drops. it's almost not a mmo then. it's gear fashion fantasy for 16bucks for casuals.

nobody said it was wow. i, quite frankly, don't want the super easy wow nor do i want the same pull and spank the same mob grind camps all day either.

when i think of final fantasy i think of all the quests that those games bring. i could care less about the pull and camp grinds. my favorite memories from the final fantasy games in the past were the quests and optional things to do in those games. whether, it be, omega weapon, tetra master, blitzball, looking for your ultimate weapon, chasing down your summons and fighting them, or just fights that were difficult in general that you lost many times to that is what final fantasy is along with a big breathtaking story.

i'm not saying i like the easy mode the game has went to, but with all the personal attacks that has went on in these forums it's not a suprise that it is being done. they have been taking away one layer of depth at a time and anytime anyone said anything about them being removed it has been one personal attack on them after another.

the funny part is it was ok for the other things that took away the fun part of other peoples games it was ok, but now that an alternate way of transportation is attainable by all it is a big issue. these forums should have been complaining along with the people that seen this coming months ago instead of personally attacking them when they brought up the concerns.

[Teknoman]

Honestly its not taking away a layer of depth (as far as chocobos go) since these are Company issued chocobos. We've still got to see what combat system, breeding system, and other things they have planned for Chocobo content.

Not to mention there are still alot of people that will need to do multiple Grand Company content to get the rank/seals required.

[darkstarpoet1]

Honestly its not taking away a layer of depth (as far as chocobos go) since these are Company issued chocobos. We've still got to see what combat system, breeding system, and other things they have planned for Chocobo content.

Not to mention there are still alot of people that will need to do multiple Grand Company content to get the rank/seals required.

that's what i was referring to. the removal of depth was ok when it didn't affect them and they personally attacked people that had issues with them, but now just because it's not some intense quest to get a way of transportation when it has already been stated some of the game will need those they make a big deal out of it.

would i have liked a quest to get a chocobo? yes, but i also understand that even if they added a quest it would be for something around a mid 20's character to complete anyways so with my r50 it would still be considered nothing to get it.

we have to realize that when we skipped ahead and continued to rank up that not everything that goes into the game is going to be for us. they have to make the game more stable for the incoming players before they can look into a ps3 release or they will have the same mass exodus we had with the pc users. they have to get it ready for ps3 release as their first priority because they need the income to start rolling in.

all i was saying is that people should have seen this coming with all of the other changes, but they were too busy fighting with each other to see it.

[Bled]

that's what i was referring to. the removal of depth was ok when it didn't affect them and they personally attacked people that had issues with them, but now just because it's not some intense quest to get a way of transportation when it has already been stated some of the game will need those they make a big deal out of it.

would i have liked a quest to get a chocobo? yes, but i also understand that even if they added a quest it would be for something around a mid 20's character to complete anyways so with my r50 it would still be considered nothing to get it.

we have to realize that when we skipped ahead and continued to rank up that not everything that goes into the game is going to be for us. they have to make the game more stable for the incoming players before they can look into a ps3 release or they will have the same mass exodus we had with the pc users. they have to get it ready for ps3 release as their first priority because they need the income to start rolling in.

all i was saying is that people should have seen this coming with all of the other changes, but they were too busy fighting with each other to see it.

I view it more as people not accepting the truth.

I strongly disagree with this games direction but nothing has surprised me or been outside of what Yoshi said he was going to do.

[Xmbei]

the only differing interest i have with poets and bled's posts are I like the changes and direction Yoshi is taking. I am happy though to agree with them that they think as an overall picture and realize that this is changing the whole game not just for us 50's who rushed through content....

[darkstarpoet1]

the only differing interest i have with poets and bled's posts are I like the changes and direction Yoshi is taking. I am happy though to agree with them that they think as an overall picture and realize that this is changing the whole game not just for us 50's who rushed through content....

see and that is you opinion and it is not my right to try and tell you that your opinion is wrong.

my opinion is different, but it's because we see removal of this and removal of that and will be adding something else in the future. how long is in the future. we were told in january we would be getting basic ls options in the future. those are still yet to be seen.(yes, i know they have given a reason for it not being in yet and am not bashing that)

i just worry about the removal of any depth until we see what they plan on implementing in the future. i don't want to give blind faith that change for the sake of change is going to be a good change.

all we have is different opinions, but if we all thought exactly the same there would be no competing game companies or and other type of competition in the world. that would lead to a very boring place though. i'm not saying my opinion is any more viable than yours it, but more of explaining why i feel the way i do.

[Jynx]

Note: Content in Final Fantasy XI lasted so long not because it was difficult or challenging, but because of the absurd drop rates, the time wasting game mechanics, etc.

Those time wasting mechanics did make the aquisition of items rather hard. If you couldn't/wouldn't invest the time to get a item you didn't get it. If you couldn't get it yourself you bought it, because the game could support itself like that.

I'm not sure what people think "Hard" is, "Hard" is not just something that requires a specific skillset/rank to acomplish. If you reason that a time investment is not adding difficulty addine a learning curve itself is not difficult either. Learning is nothing more than investing your time and being able to apply the knowledge gained in said timeframe.

You have to spend time to learn your class, skills, party, zones, monsters. It's not so absurd to think you might need to also spend time actually aquiring the item. Boiling it down to nothing but "Skill" is pointless as to make anything worthwhile a actual reward the content would have to be extremly hard to give any real "Hell yeah!" effect when you obtained the item.

Luck is a factor in designing good gameplay elements as well, it can't always boil down to Kill ____ Get ____ 100% of the time. If you think that it is...I just don't know what to say.

[Xmbei]

lol wasn't attacking your opinion, I was more trying to state that even us with different opinion's can see the whole picture of what they are doing instead of some people flailing omg choco is too easy to get!!! (mainly because they did everything before this patch) while a new player it will actually feel like they worked for it! Some of the other's were not veiwing the whole picture, and you and bled were.

[Nabiri]

(OP long post)

Took the words right outta my mouth.
You named just about everything I feel XIV is lacking. If it doesn't shape up I'm gonna end up shipping out. >.> If I wanted to play other games I would, but I want a FF game. FFXI did a lot of things right. It was very unique. It's sad that XIV doesn't seem to have learned a thing from it and just wants to copy every other boring game out there.

(I always lol when people say "If you like XI go and play that instead." It's not the same game most of us used to love... since Abyssea broke it. FFXI isn't FFXI anymore. It's dead.)

[Bled]

Took the words right outta my mouth.
You named just about everything I feel XIV is lacking. If it doesn't shape up I'm gonna end up shipping out. >.> If I wanted to play other games I would, but I want a FF game. FFXI did a lot of things right. It was very unique. It's sad that XIV doesn't seem to have learned a thing from it and just wants to copy every other boring game out there.

The joys of mainstream. I always in my more optimistic days thought that Japan would not get caught up in Western mainstream games.