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    Agree, we need hard content, things to focus for more than 3 months, i hate WoW cycle i played for 2 years, once you got some endgame gear it was obsolete so no glory in there, and especially please dont bring back the badge farming for gear, that killed a lot of fun of WoW, i know there are several people who played it, correct me if im wrong that after WotLK it went to hell.

    So yeah im up for really bad ass hardcore content, bring it on XD
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    Honestly its not taking away a layer of depth (as far as chocobos go) since these are Company issued chocobos. We've still got to see what combat system, breeding system, and other things they have planned for Chocobo content.

    Not to mention there are still alot of people that will need to do multiple Grand Company content to get the rank/seals required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teknoman View Post
    Honestly its not taking away a layer of depth (as far as chocobos go) since these are Company issued chocobos. We've still got to see what combat system, breeding system, and other things they have planned for Chocobo content.

    Not to mention there are still alot of people that will need to do multiple Grand Company content to get the rank/seals required.
    that's what i was referring to. the removal of depth was ok when it didn't affect them and they personally attacked people that had issues with them, but now just because it's not some intense quest to get a way of transportation when it has already been stated some of the game will need those they make a big deal out of it.

    would i have liked a quest to get a chocobo? yes, but i also understand that even if they added a quest it would be for something around a mid 20's character to complete anyways so with my r50 it would still be considered nothing to get it.

    we have to realize that when we skipped ahead and continued to rank up that not everything that goes into the game is going to be for us. they have to make the game more stable for the incoming players before they can look into a ps3 release or they will have the same mass exodus we had with the pc users. they have to get it ready for ps3 release as their first priority because they need the income to start rolling in.

    all i was saying is that people should have seen this coming with all of the other changes, but they were too busy fighting with each other to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    that's what i was referring to. the removal of depth was ok when it didn't affect them and they personally attacked people that had issues with them, but now just because it's not some intense quest to get a way of transportation when it has already been stated some of the game will need those they make a big deal out of it.

    would i have liked a quest to get a chocobo? yes, but i also understand that even if they added a quest it would be for something around a mid 20's character to complete anyways so with my r50 it would still be considered nothing to get it.

    we have to realize that when we skipped ahead and continued to rank up that not everything that goes into the game is going to be for us. they have to make the game more stable for the incoming players before they can look into a ps3 release or they will have the same mass exodus we had with the pc users. they have to get it ready for ps3 release as their first priority because they need the income to start rolling in.

    all i was saying is that people should have seen this coming with all of the other changes, but they were too busy fighting with each other to see it.
    I view it more as people not accepting the truth.

    I strongly disagree with this games direction but nothing has surprised me or been outside of what Yoshi said he was going to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    that's what i was referring to. the removal of depth was ok when it didn't affect them and they personally attacked people that had issues with them, but now just because it's not some intense quest to get a way of transportation when it has already been stated some of the game will need those they make a big deal out of it.

    would i have liked a quest to get a chocobo? yes, but i also understand that even if they added a quest it would be for something around a mid 20's character to complete anyways so with my r50 it would still be considered nothing to get it.

    we have to realize that when we skipped ahead and continued to rank up that not everything that goes into the game is going to be for us. they have to make the game more stable for the incoming players before they can look into a ps3 release or they will have the same mass exodus we had with the pc users. they have to get it ready for ps3 release as their first priority because they need the income to start rolling in.

    all i was saying is that people should have seen this coming with all of the other changes, but they were too busy fighting with each other to see it.

    I understand that and i know that we're far from low ranks, but right now im only asking for hard content to come, especially for us who have been here playing all the time since last september, i enjoy the game a lot but i really want to see things that take people time to do, not in like waiting an NM for 3 days for a single pop or something like that, i want content that needs skillful play that even being good in your role you have a high percent of failure, we need high rank content to be focus while they make more content for new players.

    I didnt like that much the new dungeon r45+ that you need to skip all to get a special chest, we need open world content like alliance raids where you meet different playstyles and have a great fun at the same time. Places that you need to complete hard stuff to get there, gear that doesnt become obsolete after 3-6 months, its not like make a FFXI-2 its more like take the hardest and juicy stuff from there and make it in the FFXIV way, i really enjoy more XIV than XI the battle dynamics are far better in my op. but if we're gonna have easy to clear content, wheres the fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by elreed View Post
    I understand that and i know that we're far from low ranks, but right now im only asking for hard content to come, especially for us who have been here playing all the time since last september, i enjoy the game a lot but i really want to see things that take people time to do, not in like waiting an NM for 3 days for a single pop or something like that, i want content that needs skillful play that even being good in your role you have a high percent of failure, we need high rank content to be focus while they make more content for new players.

    I didnt like that much the new dungeon r45+ that you need to skip all to get a special chest, we need open world content like alliance raids where you meet different playstyles and have a great fun at the same time. Places that you need to complete hard stuff to get there, gear that doesnt become obsolete after 3-6 months, its not like make a FFXI-2 its more like take the hardest and juicy stuff from there and make it in the FFXIV way, i really enjoy more XIV than XI the battle dynamics are far better in my op. but if we're gonna have easy to clear content, wheres the fun?
    I understand what your saying, and you are not alone at all. Its just from their point of view... they need to pump out the "skeleton" of the game first...if they spend time trying to find content for the people currently playing...then they are building content based on a system that is going to go through rapid changes in the months to come...

    we just got to play the waiting game.... theres a reason the game is free at the moment
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    the only differing interest i have with poets and bled's posts are I like the changes and direction Yoshi is taking. I am happy though to agree with them that they think as an overall picture and realize that this is changing the whole game not just for us 50's who rushed through content....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    the only differing interest i have with poets and bled's posts are I like the changes and direction Yoshi is taking. I am happy though to agree with them that they think as an overall picture and realize that this is changing the whole game not just for us 50's who rushed through content....
    see and that is you opinion and it is not my right to try and tell you that your opinion is wrong.

    my opinion is different, but it's because we see removal of this and removal of that and will be adding something else in the future. how long is in the future. we were told in january we would be getting basic ls options in the future. those are still yet to be seen.(yes, i know they have given a reason for it not being in yet and am not bashing that)

    i just worry about the removal of any depth until we see what they plan on implementing in the future. i don't want to give blind faith that change for the sake of change is going to be a good change.

    all we have is different opinions, but if we all thought exactly the same there would be no competing game companies or and other type of competition in the world. that would lead to a very boring place though. i'm not saying my opinion is any more viable than yours it, but more of explaining why i feel the way i do.
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    lol wasn't attacking your opinion, I was more trying to state that even us with different opinion's can see the whole picture of what they are doing instead of some people flailing omg choco is too easy to get!!! (mainly because they did everything before this patch) while a new player it will actually feel like they worked for it! Some of the other's were not veiwing the whole picture, and you and bled were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    lol wasn't attacking your opinion, I was more trying to state that even us with different opinion's can see the whole picture of what they are doing instead of some people flailing omg choco is too easy to get!!! (mainly because they did everything before this patch) while a new player it will actually feel like they worked for it! Some of the other's were not veiwing the whole picture, and you and bled were.
    oh i agree. i just wanted to actually state what my point was because we know how people on these forums love to take one post and just attack it without having a clue of what they are attacking. i didn't take you as an attack.

    yes, for me with a few r50's and having already completed both of the dungeons it will not be difficult for me to get a chocobo, but it should not be difficult for a r50. if it should have any difficulty to obtain it should be for a r20-25 class. if they did nothing more than say to get the chocobo they had to complete the r25 dungeon is would be a nice enough quest for a new player with only one rank 25 class to get.

    if it is completable by a r25 then there is no r50 that will have problems completing the quest, but really a chocobo shouldn't be only for the r50 players. if i had expected to have a challenge out of everything released now i would have just stopped playing with the mass exodus, but i wanted the head start so i continued playing.

    the drawback to that is the people that took time off will find the new systems more enjoyable because they took months away and now they see the massive changes and will have missed the changes that we have been getting in each patch. they compare the game to what it was in beta or in september and, quite frankly, even before the patch the game was different.

    i just have to step back and realize that because i stayed in game not everything being released will be for me, but that the foundation for the people coming back and just getting the game will take priority over my wants.
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