Something need to be done about BAD DPS.

[sirDarts]

Anecdotal suggests a lack of experience with the subject. I guess you missed the sentence, and my post well prior in this thread, where I specifically cite a tank in a Fractal run using a parser to call out the party for their bad DPS. That is experience, and first-hand experience at that, nothing anecdotal about it. And in the end it wound up being the tank that was holding us up so it wasn't even the party's fault. Prime bloody example of what we are trying to avoid.

That's EXACTLY what's anecdotal about your evidence. Your lack of knowledge and information makes you overvalue ONE bad experience while being COMPLETELY unable to see any neutral/good experience you might have had with people who use parsers, because you DON'T KNOW who is and who isn't.

@Sir Darts,

Contrary to you, I speak of experience for having seen, peopel using parsers saying it open and initiating a vote to kick a dps outo f the group for ..poor perfomance, so I do speak with knowlegde, good knowledge, having seen it more then not.If someone dies in Titan, maybe because cant avoid titan's attack, nothing to do with parser, if a dps dies, it can be also becausese of the healer's fault, here going towards my point e.g. failure of the group is NOT on the shoulder of one only etc etc etc....still remain parser is for mature people, or with a mature intelligence..and not for children that will find it amusing to throw someone out they dont like (this too is a true story)

But, I am not difficult you know, each can live as they want .....and play as they want...this conversation, in the end brings nowhere, we do not hold the power to decide, SE holds it, I dont personalyl care either ways, I can only try my best which to some may nto be enough. you might want to come down from your mighty horse though and stop being hypocrital....in this communiyt many are immature snooty selfish people that all it matters is themselves...and never or rarely the good of a group

Mei

And I speak of experience for having seen people do nothing bad with parsers (me for example). So yeah... Our experience is worth the same, and it all boils down to one thing: People who want to be dicks will be dicks no matter the tools they have, and people who don't want to be dicks won't be dicks no matter the tools they have.

OK, I'm really starting to lose my patience with you...
I HAVE CLEARLY written that if someone dies to unavoidable damage, it IS the healer's fault.
And I HAVE CLEARLY written that if someone dies to avoidable damage, it IS their fault.
But it's still ONE PLAYER who is at fault, NOT the whole team.

AND ONCE AGAIN, if you are afraid of full party parsers, sure, but PERSONAL parsers would benefit EVERYONE!

why aren't people that are sick of "bad DPS", whatever that's supposed to mean, just playing in statics?
i think it has already been said a long time ago by yoshi, that higher tier content is supposed to be done in FCs and statics.
if something is to blame, it's the way this game forces DPS checks instead of complex and challenging encounters.
blame the game, not the player.

So basically you are saying, that Healers and Tanks ALWAYS have to play as good as they can (since their failure in anything above Brayflox means a wipe), yet DPS can play with one hand up their... *ehm*... because DPS checks are only in harder content which should be done with a premade group?

And people wonder why we say that DPS in this game are babied...