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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    I'd be okay if the current SMN became Necromancer with a focus on DoTs, plagues, and changed the pets to become spirits, skeletons, zombies, and other horrors. I'd be perfectly fine with that. Then implement SMN as a new job with an actual focus on real summoning.

    Or give us Puppetmaster for a big focus on the pet.

    Or give us Beastmaster again for that nice axe-and-claw action.

    SMN is a fine enough job as it is, but it doesn't feel like a summoner at all. For example, Ifrit has his own summoning action icon. Garuda and Titan are just Carbuncle since they just made the old spells summon the egis. You can tell how little they actually care.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    I'd be okay if the current SMN became Necromancer with a focus on DoTs, plagues, and changed the pets to become spirits, skeletons, zombies, and other horrors. I'd be perfectly fine with that. Then implement SMN as a new job with an actual focus on real summoning.
    That's kinda what Thaumaturge's (NPC's) do. Or Black Mage's (they summoned Diabolos). Either or, that's something the lore has already made impossible for Summoners.
    The Allagan Mages did not summon Primals. They summoned the Egi's to combat the Primals of the Beastmen.
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    That's kinda what Thaumaturge's (NPC's) do. Or Black Mage's (they summoned Diabolos). Either or, that's something the lore has already made impossible for Summoners.
    The Allagan Mages did not summon Primals. They summoned the Egi's to combat the Primals of the Beastmen.
    The Allagan Mages did summon Primals to try and dominate the Allagan emopire fearing there power the Allagans executed every Mage that had the knowledge of summoning until there were few Mages with the knowledge of summoning until their were only a few of them left. Afterwards the last Summoners died off and the Art of Summoning was lost to history until the Y'mhitra and the Sons of Saint Coinarch decided to ressurect it.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    That's kinda what Thaumaturge's (NPC's) do. Or Black Mage's (they summoned Diabolos). Either or, that's something the lore has already made impossible for Summoners.
    The Allagan Mages did not summon Primals. They summoned the Egi's to combat the Primals of the Beastmen.
    This is correct, THM would call forth Voidsent which i'm sure Diabolos is included in that list though with lore now anything could be a primal. Allagan didn't summon primals but rather capture and harnessed them. They are still bound by the same rules as current summoners, finite egi and silly trances.

    On the subject of lore though, I wish people would stop pretending their is a rule book set in stone that the devs have consult before they add anything too the game. They can do and will do anything they want then write the lore to go along with it.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 07-05-2015 at 02:36 PM.