Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Massterchef]

2/3 GCDs? Gauss Barrel cast time is 3 seconds, and if you use it right after a GCD (which is the best time to cast it) assuming a 2.3-2.4s GCD, you still only lose out on 1 GCD. Even if you did have Rapid Fire up, you'd lose out on 2 GCDs because 1.5s GCD, and since Rapid Fire isn't consumed by Gauss Barrel, you'd still be able to pull off buffed Split/Slug/Clean Shots as well as having access to Ricochet + Gauss Round which is still higher potency (1x split + slug + auto attack - 420 potency, 1x ricochet + gauss round - 600 * 1.2 = 720 potency)

1s GCD animation from slug/split/clean depending on latency won't allow you to cast GB immediately after the GCD. Plus animation delay from Blood for blood and Hawkeye assuming you pop them after GB. In a perfect world yea it's only 420 potency but with animation delays and latency you are looking at atleast a 3 GCD loss

[Caitlyn]

I did Bismarck Ex yesterday and I got an average DPS of 460 (+80 from the turret). I m ilvl 154 with an 160 weapon.

Now, my questions are:
1. How much DPS should I m make with ilvl 160 or ilvl 170?
2. Is there any kind of best-in-slot-gear out there or are you aiming for max ilvl?
3. With the "fix" of rapid-fire: are you attaching GB during boss-fights or do you keep this thing off?
4. What can i do, if no skill want to proc, but both ammunition-skils are not ready?

[SaintCartridge]

Caitlyn

1 - In my opinion a reasonable DPS number for a MCH with ilvl 170 should be between 550-600 DPS. Now, a good MCH would go over those numbers obviously. But, if ur DPS is around those numbers I just said, then u're doing ur job to DPS bismarck down

2 - I don't believe there is a best in slot right now, only because you have no gear to choose from. There's only one and is that one you have to get (in this case being the Law/Centurio Seals gear)

3- At the moment, I believe GB should be use with ur Opening or at any circunstance where you can cast it without loosing any DPS. For example, when a boss is invulnerable because of some ability-animations he does or whatever. In the end, you would want to switch between GB when u have a window in which u cannot make DPS. Eventhough its all circunstancial

4 - In that case, if u have GB up, use Feint and Gauss Round when it pops. If you dont have GB up keep spamming split shot cuz at least Quick Reload should be coming up soon

[Caitlyn]

Caitlyn

1 - In my opinion a reasonable DPS number for a MCH with ilvl 170 should be between 550-600 DPS. Now, a good MCH would go over those numbers obviously. But, if ur DPS is around those numbers I just said, then u're doing ur job to DPS bismarck down

2 - I don't believe there is a best in slot right now, only because you have no gear to choose from. There's only one and is that one you have to get (in this case being the Law/Centurio Seals gear)

3- At the moment, I believe GB should be use with ur Opening or at any circunstance where you can cast it without loosing any DPS. For example, when a boss is invulnerable because of some ability-animations he does or whatever. In the end, you would want to switch between GB when u have a window in which u cannot make DPS. Eventhough its all circunstancial

4 - In that case, if u have GB up, use Feint and Gauss Round when it pops. If you dont have GB up keep spamming split shot cuz at least Quick Reload should be coming up soon

Thanks for your answers.

@1.: I ve found some post about a guy who made 800 DPS and I m wonder if that is possible. I played Monk before and now I m feeling quite useless because of the huge loss of damage. Thats why I wanted to know, which DPS I shall aiming for.

@2.: Well, thats good to know. It makes me feel like when 2.0 came out and ilvl 90 was the best to have ; )

@3.: Yesterday, Bismarck Ex showed me, that we never get to the second phase while having GB equipped. Even with all cooldowns and skills, we never made it to break his Chitin Carapace. I used GB in my opening, but disabled it after the first adds are down. Then we made it without a problem.

@4.: Ok, thanks. Sometimes, I wished I have a skill to bypass these moments (like the Monk does).

[SaintCartridge]

1 - Well if u are looking for a high DPS job, MCH isn't really the choice u want. Not saying we have bad DPS, but im sure we don't have the potential to be the best ones in the game right now. I think that 800 DPS was in Ravana Ex and I do think its possible. Either that or it was before the hotfix which it was also possible back then

2 - Yeah its pretty linear the game right now

3 - Well then you did it different from the way I did. In Bismarck EX I start with GB on, and I try to kill the adds as quick as possible with all the skills I have available for dmg (except wildfire) + Quick Reload. When the adds are down, during the Bismarck-hooked animation I pop ALL my buffs (with GB still on) and I jump into his back and unload everything I have with GB still on. In other words, I save my Opening for when Im on his back. I only take GB off when the debuff from the Snakes comes. Never had a problem of doing things like this

4 - U are welcome^^

[pandabearcat]

It's 100 potency per 3 seconds depending on your auto attack delay. So if you have a Hive Musketoon which has an auto attack delay of 2.64, the potency of your auto attacks would roughly be:

Delay / 3.00 * 100 = Auto-Attack Potency
100 * 2.64 / 3 = 88 potency

This is approximately true. When I last tested 100/3sec was a fairly good model. However iirc it isn't quite the same as an actual 100 potency attack, it scales differently.

[RiceisNice]

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1. They're doing 800 in Ravana, but the thing is, depending on when the fight ends, the numbers can be a bit skewed because of vulnerability phases. There's just so much downtime going on that can dilute the numbers a bit, or get reset and not account for the downtimes and factor in the vulnerability phases. If there's one thing MCH is good that, its burst damage with GB.

3. There's no content that is rendered impossible by bringing in a MCH or two. Their dps is low, but not that low to the point that they become a liability for dps check.

4. Full GB uptime is a dps loss (or a very small gain, either it's not justified for the attachment), unless you're trying to hold out for that last ricochet+gauss round.

[Ephier]

800 DPS in Ravana sounds like merged parses ignoring phase changes and what not. Full encounter should be around 550~650.

[Massterchef]

Thanks for your answers.

@1.: I ve found some post about a guy who made 800 DPS and I m wonder if that is possible. I played Monk before and now I m feeling quite useless because of the huge loss of damage. Thats why I wanted to know, which DPS I shall aiming for.

I've only done Bismark EX twice on my MCH and I'd say 800 is attainable assuming you have a group that add stacks to optimize with bishop turret. I ran with a pug for the most part and could still hit 750, so 700+ is definitely attainable on BEX. I haven't really done Rav at all on MCH but have on ninja.



Plus DPS quotes in fights with downtime are unreliable unless they can prove it's unmerged.

[Phyllo]

Oh just out of curiosity, let's say that in a fight you switch turret at some point, will the parser show the result for each turret, count both as the same being or only show one of them? (Ps4 user so I don't really know how parsers work their magic)