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  1. #421
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    Kasmiya's Avatar
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    Zenna Rose
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Yeah I don't really use macros (in any game really) other than mouse over healing macros. Although it would be nice for all the CDs we have to use with MCH haha.
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  2. #422
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    Chajava's Avatar
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    Sufa Sarsaparilla
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 50
    How much of a dps increase is it really to have gauss in your rotation?
    I mean, I'm messing around with a dummy and I just don't feel like having to deal with what- 3 extra buttons? in a boss fight while having to worry about other things going on is realistically 'worth it'
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  3. #423
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chajava View Post
    How much of a dps increase is it really to have gauss in your rotation?
    I mean, I'm messing around with a dummy and I just don't feel like having to deal with what- 3 extra buttons? in a boss fight while having to worry about other things going on is realistically 'worth it'
    It's only two buttons - gauss round every 20 seconds and ricochet. As it stands right now, it's not really an increase or decrease as MCH is putting out about the same amount of damage on as it is off. I use it because I like the extra buttons during downtime and I want to get used to it for when it hopefully gets buffed. For now, using it outside your opener isn't really necessary, though.
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  4. #424
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    It's only two buttons - gauss round every 20 seconds and ricochet. As it stands right now, it's not really an increase or decrease as MCH is putting out about the same amount of damage on as it is off. I use it because I like the extra buttons during downtime and I want to get used to it for when it hopefully gets buffed. For now, using it outside your opener isn't really necessary, though.
    I've done a few test runs on my topic, and the dps difference between non-GB and fulltime GB was 3.3%. Include in the fact that my non-GB test had the least amount of crits between the three, and that difference would be even more negligible.
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  5. #425
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    Chajava's Avatar
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    Sufa Sarsaparilla
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 50
    Yea, I was referring to feint as the 3rd ability, as some people are using it.
    I don't really consider myself a hardcore player, but I do check in with threads like these and see what other people are doing to maximize their dps, to make sure I'm not doing something totally wrong.
    Judging by those parses, and my own personal experiences so far, I really feel like personally I'd probably be better off just only using it at the pull. It feels like a lot of extra effort to mess with it in a fight, and I could totally see myself missing some mechanic or something and getting myself killed because I was trying to juggle extra buttons at a hectic time for a minor dps increase.
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  6. #426
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    I've done a few test runs on my topic, and the dps difference between non-GB and fulltime GB was 3.3%. Include in the fact that my non-GB test had the least amount of crits between the three, and that difference would be even more negligible.
    Wow, that's not good. I've been assuming that like WM the GB is supposed to be a higher dps stance, but it looks like it's failing spectacularly at being that.
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  7. #427
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    Wow, that's not good. I've been assuming that like WM the GB is supposed to be a higher dps stance, but it looks like it's failing spectacularly at being that.
    WM does lead to a damage increase for bard, but it's not the case for machinist. It's probably because part of our overall damage is not increased by GB (the turret).
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  8. #428
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    WM does lead to a damage increase for bard, but it's not the case for machinist. It's probably because part of our overall damage is not increased by GB (the turret).
    ...I think I may hold off on leveling my machinist beyond 52 until it starts getting some decent amount of power. I mean I enjoy playing it, but I don't dare bring it into a high level dungeon at this point.
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  9. #429
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    ...I think I may hold off on leveling my machinist beyond 52 until it starts getting some decent amount of power. I mean I enjoy playing it, but I don't dare bring it into a high level dungeon at this point.
    MCH's damage is ok; it's not low to the point that they should be excluded from anything (Pre-40 dungeons is a different story though...)
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 07-05-2015 at 07:18 AM.
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  10. #430
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    MCH's damage is ok; it's not low to the point that they should be excluded from anything (Pre-40 dungeons is a different story though...)
    Machinist below level 40 is a joke. The absence of the turret takes away a huge chunk of dps, making it absolutely laughably subpar. How could they ever have thought that that was a good idea?
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