Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Havenchild]

Wouldn't you just 3D Bane prior to Miasma falling off?

If 3D is on CD I usually B2MB Bane before Miasma falls off. Always want that 40 potency ticking the longest on all mobs.

3D / Re DoT all the same. But yes 3D would be better in this case. I need to level up.

[pandabearcat]

Careful you don't do it too early, or basically you're cutting into the potency of the previous AF usage.

So effectively if you clip more than 2 ticks or so you've "wasted" a painflare equivalent.

[Meleoffs]

OneWinged what is the opener that you use in that video you linked? I'm trying to get the PPS for it. I HAVE an opener thats very similar to the one you used.

Factoring in raid buffs like TA and BV foes/foes

If I cut at 22.5 and 52.5 I have mine at 222.98 and 185.47 respectively and I have yours at 193.9 and 180.67

If I cut at 25 and 55 I have mine at 200.68 and 181.6 and yours are at 221.64 and 184.06

Massive edits: I suck at this math thing cause I'm tired. The one you used in your video is superior. Saving raging strikes is bad.

One day when I'm not so tired I'll clean up the spreadsheet I used so it's easier to understand and add more of the openers we find then put it here.

Things I'd like to test are whether or not using DWT after you finish reapplying your dots to get more ruin 3s out is better

EDIT: Numbers are wrong, proportions are the same though. I broke my spreadsheet moving things around to accommodate your longer rotation and just realized it now.

[Puwarh]

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somehow this remind me of...


I wanna know what it will be like when we reach 60...

[AiiroOkami]

luizf_sp, I think that your opener is pretty good tbh, but I think you use too much skills oGCD while you could use GCD skills.
I made some changes to resolve this problem :
Always using Ifrit :
Rouse + Spur before pull.
Bio > Enkidle > Bio II > Radiant Shield > Miasma > Ruin II > Swiftcast > Fester > Shadow Flare > Painflare > Ruin II > Raging Strike > Ruin > Bio > Fester > Aetherflow > Pot > DW Trance > Ruin II > Tri-Disaster > Fester > Ruin III > Painflare > Ruin III > Fester > Deathflare

With this opener you don't have that much downtime and you optimize your DPS with using a GCD skill whenever you can.
Feel free to suggest some modifications, if we work together we can find the best opener

[Meleoffs]

luizf_sp, I think that your opener is pretty good tbh, but I think you use too much skills oGCD while you could use GCD skills.
I made some changes to resolve this problem :
Always using Ifrit :
Rouse + Spur before pull.
Bio > Enkidle > Bio II > Radiant Shield > Miasma > Ruin II > Swiftcast > Fester > Shadow Flare > Painflare > Ruin II > Raging Strike > Bio > Aetherflow > Pot > DW Trance > Ruin II > Tri-Disaster > Fester > Ruin III > Painflare > Ruin III > Fester > Deathflare

With this opener you don't have that much downtime and you optimize your DPS with using a GCD skill whenever you can.
Feel free to suggest some modifications, if we work together we can find the best opener

I can put this in my spreadsheet and figure out how much potency per second its worth if you want.

[AiiroOkami]

I can put this in my spreadsheet and figure out how much potency per second its worth if you want.

Please do

[Arkann]

Not 60 yet, but here is how I think I will open, starting with Garuda:

Rouse + Spur / Bio II / Miasma / Bio / Enkindle / Fester / Ruin II / Painflare / Shadow Flare / Ruin spam until Fester is up / Fester / Aetherflow / Ruin II ? / Raging Strikes / Potion of Intelligence / Dreadwyrm Trance / Tri-Disaster / Fester / Miasma II / Ruin III spam / Contagion while casting Ruin III / Fester / Painflare unless an unbuffed Fester deals more damage / Deathflare before buffs disappear / Swiftcast Ifrit

I'm super happy with the way Ifrit has been buffed, I haven't used Garuda since early access. I try to squeeze as much DPS as possible by checking Ifrit's hotbar so I can use his AOE and stun right after his normal attack. It's so much better than just hitting Contagion when needed and macro'ing Aerial Slash to Miasma II and Bane. However I need to manually order Ifrit to change targets before his current target dies or he'll come to me, then change his mind and go back into the fray, losing a GCD or two.

[luizf_sp]

(Rotation)

You're only using 2 aetherflow abilities, can't go into Trance with that. You can fit (need to test later) another fester after refreshing Bio and it'll benefit from the RS you just popped. Aside from this, I think its a pretty solid opener. I don't consider pet abilities as "oGcds" since they don't affect my rotation flow, so I didn't include them, but obviously you want ifrit on Obey to maximize DPS.

I don't think you should rush to go into Trance as fast as possible like some are suggesting, it seems to be a dps loss. Until ACT DoT parsing is fixed we can't say for sure whats the best way handle this. Right now, the dot damage provided by spell speed is not being parsed correctly (confirmed this yesterday with a spell speed build).

[AiiroOkami]

Oh yeah I forgot a Fester after the Bio refresh, my bad. (I edited the previous post)
I have to agree and disagree with you with the Trance entering. It's true that you lose DPS by using Painflare instead of a Fester, I totally agree on that, but I imagine I'm in a raid fight and the fight is long, the fastest I use my CDs (RS + Pot), the fastest I can reuse them.
I think that both of them are a viable option, I will use the Painflare one for now and I'll see that when ACT will work properly with DOTs again.

But I want to say that you are not wrong neither the other ones are wrong, we suggest things and see what is the best thing.