The Ninja Superthread

[Discordia]

I see a lot of Rogues (not Ninjas) in DF for Syrcus Tower, trials, etc. Is there some consensus that Rogue will do more damage than Ninja? I'm confused as to what is going on...

Edit: to clarify, people aren't equipping their soulstones

[Ricdeau]

I see a lot of Rogues (not Ninjas) in DF for Syrcus Tower, trials, etc. Is there some consensus that Rogue will do more damage than Ninja? I'm confused as to what is going on...

Edit: to clarify, people aren't equipping their soulstones

It simply comes down to these players either being really bad, trolling, or they are testing something that is going to result in less DPS. I'm guessing it's the first. With that being said not using their soulstone will not result in more DPS regardless of what crossclass abilities they take.

[Discordia]

It simply comes down to these players either being really bad, trolling, or they are testing something that is going to result in less DPS. I'm guessing it's the first. With that being said not using their soulstone will not result in more DPS regardless of what crossclass abilities they take.

If what you say is true, then it's troubling, considering how many have ilvl 130 gear (I'm assuming this is the best gear in the game?) Either that or they're just being carried by their FC.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

If what you say is true, then it's troubling, considering how many have ilvl 130 gear (I'm assuming this is the best gear in the game?) Either that or they're just being carried by their FC.

They probably just don't want to deal with the mudra lag lol. Either way, it's less dps.

[Ricdeau]

If what you say is true, then it's troubling, considering how many have ilvl 130 gear (I'm assuming this is the best gear in the game?) Either that or they're just being carried by their FC.

Dreadwyrm is the only thing that is going to require any real effort these days. Ironworks doesn't have any major difficulty to obtaining it anymore. Ever since they upgraded hunts, and then added in Carboncoats/twine and the weapon upgrade tome to WoD anyone can be full i130.

Above all else not having Huton for 15% increased attack speed (15% faster auto attacks and 15% faster GCD) is not something you can compensate for with more crossclass abilities. That alone will always put Rogue behind Ninja. Then you factor in the 30 Dex increase as well as the other Ninja abilities it's not even debatable.

[Kanemano]

Ninja AF on a hume, same design as the one initially shown on a lalafell;





Male Au'Ra Ninja (forward oriented horn), executing ninjutsu, with a different outfit (possibly new tome/raid). Helmet is samurai'ish (image shows head facing us, with the horn visible on the right side of the ninja's face). Both of these outfits have a katana strapped to the small back.





Some main differences; the boots have a different silhouette and pattern, there are satchel/pockets on the Au'Ra which is also a long coat that splits at the bottom, whereas on the AF there are throwing daggers (kunai) on the left side and a metal design on the right. AF has a tattered scarf/rag originating from the back mid section, whereas the Au'Ra does not (tail is visible). Head gear on the Au'Ra has a single adornment going straight up from the temple, similar to some samurai helmets, whereas the ninja cowl has a smaller metal accent that does not break the silhouette of the top of the head.

[Dervy]

I would not use these at all weights, but this is just a rough estimate of what we're looking at for the Ninja:

STR: 1
WD: 7.301
DET: 0.427
CRT: 0.217
SS: 0.145

Based of napkin math and formulas that aren't supposed to work for the Ninja.

[KroLeXz]

Critting the right abilities seems to matter to some extent.

670 parse with 32% crit vs 660 Parse with 37% crit. We need a good working sim IMO

**3 min parses, forgot to mention.

[Dervy]

RNG is RNG

[KroLeXz]

Still would be nice to have a working simulator where we can do 10,000 iterations