The Ninja Superthread

[SunnyHirose]

If Raiton never clipped the GCD, Raiton would be better nearly every time (mobs with magic resistance or immunity, or the incredibly weird case where you are in range for shuriken but not Raiton would be the exceptions I can think of). But videos or it didn't happen :P

TA is not factored into this guideline at all. And looking at the math, he's calculating the debuff as 111% damage instead of the 110% damage it is. He's also using a GCD of 2s for estimation.

Not sure whether it alters the conclusion, but those last two definitely skew the math in favor of shuriken.

[SunnyHirose]

I was being facetious, but a video with those conditions would help us pin down whether the 1.0s/0.5s thing is good theory.

[Spayd]

I was being facetious, but a video with those conditions would help us pin down whether the 1.0s/0.5s thing is good theory.

I usually run DRG for my static, so Fcob is locked for me. Do you guys mind if I do SCoB instead, or it is really needed to have FCoB footage. If FCoB, we will need to wait for it to be unlocked, and by then, my nin will be way more geared for it.

[Odowla]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqrmKqLGavI Not really an insane run or anything, but this isnt my average latency in coil, I've had it better than this. 618 t11, it plays a part (like trhat 650 with perfect mudras wouldve been like 630 or so with mine)

[AkashiXI]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqrmKqLGavI Not really an insane run or anything, but this isnt my average latency in coil, I've had it better than this. 618 t11, it plays a part (like trhat 650 with perfect mudras wouldve been like 630 or so with mine)

That's an interesting modification to your opener, I'm assuming because your warrior puts up eye for you. Do you feel the mutilate and shadow fang without trick attack is more beneficial in the opener normally?

[Odowla]

That's an interesting modification to your opener, I'm assuming because your warrior puts up eye for you. Do you feel the mutilate and shadow fang without trick attack is more beneficial in the opener normally?

Pretty much, yeah. I lose 60 potency to do it, while he loses nothing, so it's kind of a "why should I do it" type of thing.

[Felix_Grimoire]

I've been testing skill speed in regards to the opener and this is what I have found so far;

If you are using Raiton in your opener then it is possible to be fine with <395 skill speed. (Even at 439 the level of strictness barely budged)

If you are using Fuma then you can go as low as 382 and have it still be less strict than using Raiton at <395.

Because everyone has a different degree of Mudra lag I highly advise playing with it yourself and checking to see what your base skill speed value is and looking for the value that brings you the most comfort.

[Felix_Grimoire]

Overall the higher your value is from your base the smoother the opener. It should be noted that the opener only really gets sketchy if you are trying to fit in Raiton over Fuma under the effect of Kassatsu. Personally the only time I feel that Raiton is significantly more important than Fuma (under the effect of Kassatsu) is in the pull rotation because your BRD should be playing Foes. Besides that. the need to Raiton after Kassatsu is less significant later in fights because your BRD is less likely to be playing Foes when you have TA and Kassatu back.

[valsemiel]

Chloro strikes again, 651 T11:

[Kuroyasha]

Chloro strikes again, 651 T11:

Has 5000 wins too in Wolves Den for The Alpha Wolf title. 5000...What does the scouter say Vegeta?!