The Ninja Superthread

[SunnyHirose]

On average I lose 2 GCD for each Huton and Suiton.

That's obscene. I know West Coast players that don't have it that bad. Even so, that's more like 12% of your GCDs, and that's not 100% of your DPS.

Involuntary bunnies and other disasters are certainly a loss of DPS, but I don't think that's typical to these discussions. A lot of players have no hope of becoming Hokage even with 100% accurate ninjutsu registration.

[Judge_Xero]

That's obscene. I know West Coast players that don't have it that bad. Even so, that's more like 12% of your GCDs, and that's not 100% of your DPS.

Tell me about it.

Yeah with the possibility of my gear giving me 28 GCDs, losing 4 is more like 14%. Then the loss of Raiton vs Futon where applicable and just having my rotation messed up from the timing of everything being off.

I know 14% GCD loss doesn't = 14% DPS. AA damage is still going and it's based on the average potency loss during that time. But overall for me, that's what it amounts to considering the snowball effect that happens.

[Odowla]

I play from 3,000km away and I can weave a full huton pretty often. i really do feel bad for you

also i was making the assumption of ninjutsu being server side, it would make the problen worse since again, it could just tell you no, or, give the same effect as mudras are now.. so you would possibly get more bunnies.

easiest way to not let it bother you is to just deal with it.. ninjustus are such a small % of you dps, exempting TA and Huton that missing once in awhile isnt that bad tbh.

[Ephier]

I don't really miss mudras at all, its more of that delay just driving me crazy mid fight. Its really frustrating to know you can do more damage, but can't because mudra says so.

[Dervy]

Have people ever considered that not only does their distance from your house to your data-center account for latency, but their actual ISP is garbage?

[Odowla]

Have people ever considered that not only does their distance from your house to your data-center account for latency, but their actual ISP is garbage?

no, blame SE its all their fault

[Ephier]

Have people ever considered that not only does their distance from your house to your data-center account for latency, but their actual ISP is garbage?

I already considered that, had my ISP check everything on their end etc. For the most part even WTFast will spike before my own net will. So . . . -shrug-

[Massterchef]

I think you guys are vastly overestimating the difference good mudra speed makes >.>

It's atleast a 30-40 DPS difference depending on the severity of delay. I've had major delay on high quality network wifi yet when I play on Ethernet on a college campus with subpar connection, mudras are fine and I can optimize to some extent. DPS in this game is very dependent on latency and when you have subpar latency in comparison to JP servers with mudra delay, there will be a noticeable gap between NA and JP DPS on ninja.

[Odowla]

It's atleast a 30-40 DPS difference depending on the severity of delay. I've had major delay on high quality network wifi yet when I play on Ethernet on a college campus with subpar connection, mudras are fine and I can optimize to some extent. DPS in this game is very dependent on latency and when you have subpar latency in comparison to JP servers with mudra delay, there will be a noticeable gap between NA and JP DPS on ninja.

GCD DPS is affected by latency too, i have a friend who plays from Korea and after 3:00 I'm 1.5 GCDs ahead of him, so it does add up as well.

[Atreides]

Ninja is probably the class that is affected the most by latency, sure Ninjutus make up a small percentage of our overall DPS but the longer the execution takes the more time we waste.
I feel like I'm 100% of the time on the mercy of my connection, sometimes I skyrocket the parser because I have an awesome delay and the Mudras come very quick and other times it takes me 3+ seconds to use Suiton/Huton and my DPS flushes down the toilet.
With WTFast I have an average ms of 130 but ever since the basic version became free it got worse durring peak times.
I'm still rooting for the EU servers, once they come I can really enjoy Ninja.