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  1. #621
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    Pluvia's Avatar
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Don't worry guys sounds like Ninjas are getting positionals and still get to deal with mudra lag AND even better another mostly useless utility spell that lowers threat.

    And positional are the best case situation from how the translation sounded.
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    Last edited by Pluvia; 05-22-2015 at 03:16 AM.

  2. #622
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    Allyrion's Avatar
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Don't worry guys sounds like Ninjas are getting positionals and still get to deal with mudra lag AND even better another mostly useless utility spell that lowers threat.

    And positional are the best case situation from how the translation sounded.
    Well, they implied that we can extend Fuuton instead of recasting it.
    Taking away one of the 3-mudra casts would be really helpful since that's where you really feel the lag.
    I can deal with just Suiton, and positionals aren't a big deal coming from Monk.
    More utility is good, but it can't be too useful to make NIN mandatory for just that.

    There were some new damage moves in the video that they didn't explain.
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  3. #623
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    Songi's Avatar
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Aside from Huton duration increase are Ninjas even getting anything worthwhile? I don't like to be a doomsayer but I'm not liking where Ninja heading one bit.
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  4. #624
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    Pluvia's Avatar
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    Well, they implied that we can extend Fuuton instead of recasting it.
    Taking away one of the 3-mudra casts would be really helpful since that's where you really feel the lag.
    I can deal with just Suiton, and positionals aren't a big deal coming from Monk.
    More utility is good, but it can't be too useful to make NIN mandatory for just that.

    There were some new damage moves in the video that they didn't explain.
    Well lets just hope they balance it well. But i have this feeling its going to be monk or go home for progression all over again.
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    Last edited by Pluvia; 05-22-2015 at 03:31 AM.

  5. #625
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    PROBOUND's Avatar
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    Butta Stackz
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 80

  6. #626
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Don't worry guys sounds like Ninjas are getting positionals and still get to deal with mudra lag AND even better another mostly useless utility spell that lowers threat.
    Mostly useless? Opening on an add with a 2k TA crit hurts for aggro. If I now have an option to not pull aggro while doing that, I will quite gladly take it. Especially since NIN and MNK currently have no way to manage aggro aside from either not DPSing or dying.
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  7. #627
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Managing your own aggro can help a lot specially if you are dealing with a low gear Tank, indeed.
    As of late I've ended as a NIN tank for CT2 last boss more often than not simply because the Tanks can't keep up :/

    Needless to say that never ends well...

    But it not only applies to yourself, it seems you can also lower your allies' Aggro... *throws it to the Tank* now the Healer is the Tank!!
    Well, TrollNIN is underway.
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  8. #628
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    But it not only applies to yourself, it seems you can also lower your allies' Aggro... *throws it to the Tank* now the Healer is the Tank!!
    Well, TrollNIN is underway.
    To steal a thing from WoW, Misdirect the healer!
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  9. #629
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Well lets just hope they balance it well. But i have this feeling its going to be monk or go home for progression all over again.
    lol NIN have been favored over monk for a while and here you are whining about monks. Trick Attack and Goad in addition to similar DPS output without positionals is what put NIN in a category of its own.

    Try losing your mudras everytime a boss goes up in the air or you get targeted by a mechanic, then we'll talk. But monks have that oh so "useful' Mantra.
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  10. #630
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    Azmaria's Avatar
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    Lyra Fenris
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Losing aggro on trick attack really should only happen if your tank sucks, as you will want dancing edge up, and getting that up gives them plenty of time to hold aggro. This is all pretty lackluster, and I don't see how we can compete with the tools that other dps are getting. How will our damage scale with them?
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    Last edited by Azmaria; 05-22-2015 at 08:29 AM.

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