About to leave work, so I'll be quick:

Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
Put "shroud of saints" into google. The first thread you get is
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-not-be-static
10-26-2013 05:52 PM Which refers to a Reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVTC/com...oud_of_saints/ dated "1 year ago"
which in turn links to yet more reddit pages.

In fact the very first time "212MP" shows up on the forum is here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1425209
in a thread started on 10-12-2013 05:09 PM
When I Googled "How much MP does Shroud of Saints give back" my very first result is this reddit link which shows 212 MP / 3 seconds.

Also, if you read the second link you posted (this one) it also says "212 total mana regen using shroud"

It's just a matter of a person using the right search engine tools to find the right information and being able to look for specific points. Nothing too fancy.

Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
Again, the game doesn't even say it recovers MP, perhaps that's why people keep asking. In fact, most of the information you see about Refresh is for FFXI. When you look for FFXIV refresh you get a lot of "how do I recover MP" questions on THIS forum.
This is a point of contention I will agree with. Anyone unfamiliar with XI won't know "Refresh" is a spell from XI used for MP Regeneration. In fact, I don't think the term "Refresh" is used anywhere except on Shroud of Saints and the tooltip should be changed to adjust that.

Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
So... let's just make a chart.


Missing data is just me getting sick of waiting for a FATE to pop.
I'm, uh, not sure what you're trying to prove at this moment aside from trying to verify all the different data point levels for Shroud. Which is commendable, but not sure how that's useful for the current discussion.