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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Cause "Sacred Soil" is nothing "sacred" at all. In Japanese it's 野戦治療の陣 (yasenchiryou no jin) - "battlefield medical treatment circle".
    It is clerly fitting the idea of "battle stategist" that the SCH is.

    That thing in the cutscene is not "Sacred Soil" in the first place.
    then give us another barrier!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    then give us another barrier!
    You have it. It's called "Stoneskin II", you might have heard of it.
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    This spell I rather it be a type of CC lets say you place it over top enemies and they have to dps out of the barrier before they can get out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    White Mages should be able to use Sacred Soil.

    why is it only available in cutscenes?


    This isn't sacred soil. That being said, NPCs have access to skills that we don't have yet (the guy during the bard quest uses a new HP-over-time song). This is probably a channeled barrier spell we will see some time in the future.
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    Square, just give Sch Stoneskin II. The sole purpose of the spell was to relieve the annoyance of casting Stoneskin on everyone prior to battle. Sch (and maybe Pld) should share in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Lol at the white mages that want succor. Are you dumb?

    Having a quality of life feature for both that does not affect anything in combat would be great. I can't believe how horrible some of these white mages are. I play both and would welcome this. Selfish effing white mages.
    So scholars can ask for stoneskin II and white mages cannot ask for succor? Some bias argument you have there. They can make it a weaker succor that cannot be used in combat. Same thing isn't it?

    And let just say they DO give SS2 to scholars.

    Ideal situation for damage mitigation: 1 WHM + 1 SCH = Succor (with chances of crits) + 18% stoneskin on the entire pt.
    2 SCH = Succor (with chances of having crits) + 10% stoneskin on the entire pt.
    Then what about 2 WHM? only that 18% stoneskin on the entire pt. I seriously don't think that is fair to WHM
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    Last edited by RaquelleAvarosa; 12-12-2014 at 02:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaquelleAvarosa View Post
    So scholars can ask for stoneskin II and white mages cannot ask for succor? Some bias argument you have there. They can make it a weaker succor that cannot be used in combat. Same thing isn't it?

    And let just say they DO give SS2 to scholars.

    Ideal situation for damage mitigation: 1 WHM + 1 SCH = Succor (with chances of crits) + 18% stoneskin on the entire pt.
    2 SCH = Succor (with chances of having crits) + 10% stoneskin on the entire pt.
    Then what about 2 WHM? only that 18% stoneskin on the entire pt. I seriously don't think that is fair to WHM
    Do you even know how long succor lasts? 30 SECONDS. I don't know ANY FIGHT where enough DPS take damage within 20 seconds of the fight beginning (Because let's be honest, it takes 10 seconds for the tank to see succor has gone down and then to actually pull the boss) for succor to even be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
    I don't know ANY FIGHT where enough DPS take damage within 20 seconds of the fight beginning.
    You've never fought in Garuda before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaquelleAvarosa View Post
    You've never fought in Garuda before?
    So you want Succor for one fight? Pretty sure SCH getting AoE stoneskin out of battle isn't the equivalent of that in terms of usefulness but if you want to pretend that it is..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
    So you want Succor for one fight? Pretty sure SCH getting AoE stoneskin out of battle isn't the equivalent of that in terms of usefulness but if you want to pretend that it is..
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

    sounds awfully familiar don't you think?
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