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Thread: Stoneskin II

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    That's not the problem. Conjurers wish they had Scholar's utility. It's heck and a handbasket to keep people healed up when you've got a ton of AoE going on, like Titan's compounding rage stomps. Stoneskin II would have been so nice against that, but we can't use it in battle so /shrug. Scholars, though, can Succor through that and brush it off like a bad dream. Yet... you want Stoneskin II, with it's limited utility, because... why? I don't get it, you have a superior ability in Succor. Cast it whenever you want, as often as your MP will allow... but feel shortchanged because Stoneskin II isn't cross-class. Our third party buff to your grocery list of party buffs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    That's not the problem. Conjurers wish they had Scholar's utility. It's heck and a handbasket to keep people healed up when you've got a ton of AoE going on, like Titan's compounding rage stomps. Stoneskin II would have been so nice against that, but we can't use it in battle so /shrug. Scholars, though, can Succor through that and brush it off like a bad dream. Yet... you want Stoneskin II, with it's limited utility, because... why? I don't get it, you have a superior ability in Succor. Cast it whenever you want, as often as your MP will allow... but feel shortchanged because Stoneskin II isn't cross-class. Our third party buff to your grocery list of party buffs...
    Again, comparing apples to oranges.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Conjurers wish they had Scholar's utility.
    Scholars wish they had WHM's AoE heals.

    See what I did there?

    I am starting to believe people with a decent reading comprehension tend to go SCH in the first place. All of that book reading, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
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    Have you COMPLETELY missed the last few pages of discussion? Because changes nothing between the classes IN BATTLE. I don't even bloody understand how succor is getting dragged into this discussion besides the fact that it has a shield. It's also our only IN BATTLE AoE heal skill while WHMs already have a total of THREE AoE in battle heal skills. How many AoE heals do WHMs need before enough is enough. We're asking for an OUT OF BATTLE SHIELD. Also which part of SUCCOR STACKS WITH SS is hard to understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
    Also which part of SUCCOR STACKS WITH SS is hard to understand?
    What part of SCH and WHM are two different classes do you not understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    What part of SCH and WHM are two different classes do you not understand?
    Maybe the part where SE GAVE US SS TO CROSS CLASS in the first place. If SE didn't intend for us to use SS, then maybe they shouldn't have given us this highly useful skill at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
    Maybe the part where SE GAVE US SS TO CROSS CLASS in the first place. If SE didn't intend for us to use SS, then maybe they shouldn't have given us this highly useful skill at all?
    So Paladins should get stoneskin II with that logic, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    So Paladins should get stoneskin II with that logic, right?
    I wouldn't be opposed to it. Because why not? They can cast SSII while the SCH does Protect and we start a dungeon MUCH faster.
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    White Mages should be able to use Sacred Soil.

    why is it only available in cutscenes?


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    Rather a whm cast stoneskin at least its 18% more potent then a sch or pld casting it on you imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    White Mages should be able to use Sacred Soil.

    why is it only available in cutscenes?


    Cause "Sacred Soil" is nothing "sacred" at all. In Japanese it's 野戦治療の陣 (yasenchiryou no jin) - "battlefield medical treatment circle".
    It is clerly fitting the idea of "battle stategist" that the SCH is.

    That thing in the cutscene is not "Sacred Soil" in the first place.
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