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Thread: Stoneskin II

  1. #141
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    Raquelle Rosalia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Succor covers more only if it crits. Either way Stoneskin is the better choice before a fight because it lasts longer than Succor.
    How long can you see your stoneskin last before everyone gets slapped by an AoE?
    I don't know how much your healing potency is, but my succor covers for 600+ without crit. Most players are sitting at 6k+ HP as of now.
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    ^well, the ideal would be Stoneskin+Succor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakell View Post
    ...people seems even more impatient when awaiting stone skin casts -.-
    Duties/CT/ST: Just SS the tanks. All the others have to learn don't eat the mechanics.

    Raids: when people don't understand the difference between WHM ans SCH and everything, who cares, you have most likely joined a wipe feast party.

    Problem solved.
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    So long as WHMs get to use Succor, fine! I mean...SCH already get to use Stoneskin as it is via cross-class afterall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    So long as WHMs get to use Succor, fine! I mean...SCH already get to use Stoneskin as it is via cross-class afterall.
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    Mirakell Aritel
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    Ahh, why are people seeming to be against Scholars having a quality of life change as well as Whms?
    Before pulls - even if there is two scholars - you usually cast stoneskin on everyone. Sure, it's only 10% for us, but ss + succor is a nice damage migration... it's only a quality of life change we're asking for.

    People saying that whm's should have succor then are just not understanding what is being asked here.
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    I gave up reading comments past page 6 because of shear volume of whining SCHs.
    Though my faith in the community was restored when the "are you serious? :/" comments got ALL of the likes.

    SSII has the long cast to stop shielding in-between pulls.
    SSII has the high cost to reduce swiftcasting in-between pulls, forcing a trade between an extra Holy in a speedrun.
    I think this skill is balanced.

    I main both healers, and I thought this QoL implementation was moronic from day one.
    PANDER US MORE!
    SS the main tank and get your ass in gear.
    2s faster than SSII, and saves my Swiftcast for first pull Holy/Cure II.

    In raid content: Oh wow, I saved myself 1 Medica. If you're fretting over 300mp, you're not ready to clear that content anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaquelleAvarosa View Post
    How long can you see your stoneskin last before everyone gets slapped by an AoE?
    I don't know how much your healing potency is, but my succor covers for 600+ without crit. Most players are sitting at 6k+ HP as of now.
    597 healing potency and it's not even 500 without crit. And surely Stoneskin will get to the AoE, Succor likely drops before it even hits. And, again, they stack.
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    If you want..you can have stoneskin II..it's not really used that much by me. Half the time during normal dungeon runs people are kept up on it no problem through the duration. CT/ST? Waiting for everyone to gather I'll get it off sometimes but then you got someone who just pulls, player who sits with another team I end up using solo stoneskin anyways on some people. Even in dungeons they end up running away or theres that one guy who is "Viewing Cutscene" taking a bit too long where it's just easier to either hit SS2 everyone then use a single on him or using single target is such second nature to me that I just use it.

    Then there's the tank who sees me casting doesn't want to wait, casts his on himself and runs off missing mine..not as big of a QoL change as I thought it would be.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 12-11-2014 at 11:24 PM.

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    Kipp Kaida
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    Lol at the white mages that want succor. Are you dumb?

    Having a quality of life feature for both that does not affect anything in combat would be great. I can't believe how horrible some of these white mages are. I play both and would welcome this. Selfish effing white mages.
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