When is it OK to say, "It's Not OK"

[Sadonix]

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Sorry,but I've been backtracking your post in this thread and you seem to be using "those 3 people" as a prime example for making your point. Not saying it's an act that doesn't deserve commendation -if it's true- but for all we know it was just your words that you did good and you seem to be boasting about it a lot for such a helpful person. Assuming you actually were Mother Teresa and did help those people,it's still just a drop of water in the vast ocean. Doesn't make much difference,tbh. I passed t5 a long time ago and still dreaded whenever someone asked me to jump back into it,surely I just can't match your benevolence.

Btw since it seems this is starting to get dragged into more and more defensively individual debate and less about what the OP actually want I'm going to leave this thread out at that. Just want to be clear,I don't intend to antagonize anyone so you don't need to worry about being made a "bad person". As mentioned above,it's just nature of the game,and you roll with it until you become too tired to continue

you can't learn a fight in the pf. I did one shiva ex group and figured that out quick enough. party starts, people are on different points in the fight, and people drop out after a couple wipes because people with little-no experience aren't getting the mechanics. then you get new people who need mechanics re-explained and more people drop out because now it's been over an hour and you have made 0 progress. repeat until party disbands.

Actually most of my clears come from learning and experiencing it with PUGs. It's a very tedious and sanity testing process though,your own perseverance play the most important part in it. I might get even further with more raids but honestly, I question if it's even worth all the trouble and time repeating the same with t10-13 all over again for me.

That's a baseless assumption.

Where do you suppose a lot of raid guides come from?

Some people take pride in guiding others since it shows that they have really done the job and get past the ordeal,but it's one thing to give a lettered guide and another to jump down in trying to achieve a clear with other people. A lettered guide wouldn't even matter if no one want you to take part in actual run.

And it's not a baseless assumption at all. What with the amounts of "kick 100 sol","clear only","show me 1 loot as proof" and the amount of elitists coming in to tell how people suck and just quit on spot even in a learning party,it's only fair to come to that conclusion.