[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Deliciou5]

The game is successful already and a butchering of the summoner class is a sure way to go in the other direction. You're style of ideas have been debated a thousand times over and bringing them back over and over again is asinine at best. Also, I am not attacking you but the flaws of your arguments (which seem keen to change by arguing semantics).

You keep talking about others needing to be taken seriously so here is an advice exactly so you can be taken seriously. Propose realistic changes for the job, like QoL and not changes that would butcher it.

You do not speak for everyone, in fact if there was any evidence that people wanted summoner to change...it's in the OP of this thread. Unlike charts that do not express intention or opinion it seems many people who do not play, or have played and are disappointed with the way summoner turned out. While roughly 40 people are hardly the vast of majority of the games population, you think that the answer for no would be a lot higher.

I also do not understand why i can only suggest things that fall within your idea of what summoner should be. If you argue that's the only way you will take me seriously then go ahead and think whatever you want....but it is quite arrogant of you to assume that vast majority thinks the same as you.After all you assume that the game will go in the other direction if the job changes, implying that everyone thinks just like you.

It's even more arrogant is to respond to me with serious posts then get upset when someone tells you they rather discuss new ideas of how the job would change when you yourself just admitted that you are only interested in discussing your own viewpoint.

If i asked for you to give me an example of a brand new ability that fit within your own QoL viewpoint..could you? Lets say this ability would be added when they raised the level cap. What would be your own best suggestion?

Every-time i make a new post you feel compelled to respond to it as if i was some kind of threat.Then you are not taking me seriously right? Then why even respond? I do not care if you do, but it is difficult to have any meaningful discussion for one side or another when we are always discussing each other's semantics as you said instead of brand new ideas. You don't even have to argue for the job to radically change.Just saying stop being a hypocrite.

In the end i am simply sharing ideas on what i believe should happen. For some reason that legitimately bothers you and you keep responding....that is very telling. If in your mind the dev's will never use my ideas, then it shouldn't bother you if i waste my time the way i want to. Not your place to moderate the forums, nor is it your place to tell people what they should discuss. Yes it is true i try to get people to discuss ideas...but i do not try to act so condescending about it. I do not think i am superior to you, nor do i say crap like how the game will start to fail because 1 job among many has changed.

If you do not like summoner filling multiple roles, fine... but should they have added rogue in when there is already so many other DD classes? Should there only be 2 healer classes available? Should there only be 2 tanks?(yes i know they are adding dark knight) Other mmo's are not afraid to add a bunch of classes that fill the same position, everyone wants their own flavor on how they want to play the game. You want DOT warlock ice cream while i want classic FF summoner Ice cream. We both have our own preference, i HIGHLY doubt that the game would go to crap just because they changed 1 job. Hell i think more people than ever would be playing summoner, just like everyone now is playing rogue, despite the fact that there is like 5 DD classes.

I also already explained in my idea post why i think it wouldn't be overpowered, the whole point of the post was address multiple issues at once so people can't just cherry pick arguments and isolate them from the rest of the post.