[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Dwill]

You do not speak for everyone, in fact if there was any evidence that people wanted summoner to change...it's in the OP of this thread. Unlike charts that do not express intention or opinion it seems many people who do not play, or have played and are disappointed with the way summoner turned out. While roughly 40 people are hardly the vast of majority of the games population, you think that the answer for no would be a lot higher.

Why do you keep referencing that OP ? It hasn't updated in more than a year:



The people who post on the forum are the minority of the playerbase and that's a fact. This year's census has also shown us a growth of ~30% in amount of summoners over the last year so I think Square Enix must have done something correct with the job. So in the end, it's only a minority that request the change and that's also a fact.

[Deliciou5]

Why do you keep referencing that OP ? It hasn't updated in more than a year:



The people who post on the forum are the minority of the playerbase and that's a fact. This year's census has also shown us a growth of ~30% in amount of summoners over the last year so I think Square Enix must have done something correct with the job. So in the end, it's only a minority that request the change and that's also a fact.

So you are going to ignore the rest of my post and only attack my weakest argument? Okay.

Also that chart only shows people who register in duty finder,how do you know that the full 21% of them main 50 summoner? How do you know that the full 21% of people that play summoner would not want newer abilities? Didn't you read my other posts?On top of everything else liking a job doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't want newer abilities that fit the jobs description a bit better.You are speaking for everyone again.

This may come as an absolute shock to you, but playing a job is not the same as liking it. I played jobs in other mmo's all the way into end game then ended stopped playing altogether because i was completely dissapointed with the job...i wanted to like it but i ended not caring for it at all. Because there is no way to know how a job will turn out without all its abilities, you end up pushing yourself to play it to completion. I know many ninjas in FFXI who very dissapointed that they were always pigeon holed into a tank role and gave our LS leaders a hard time whenever they wanted to do raids as other jobs...but we didn't have any other tanks so we told them that since they leveled it they had to fill that role since all other party members didn't have a tank leveled up. Now this is not true for everyone, but how do you know everyone that plays summoner wants to play it? How do you know even if they do they wouldn't mind change?

Even if people main summoners in end game, everyone has different opinions on how things should be done. I do not deny that SE will look at that chart and think that they do not have to do anything to the job...that is my own disappointment.However, my logic still rings true...not everyone who does play summoner thinks the same as you.

[Dwill]

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Make up your mind. Do you want me to attack your argument or not ?

Since you haven't seem to have touched endgame in this game, let me tell you a little secret: There is 1 encounter where a Summoner is a somewhat necessity and it's T7 for the 4 stack strategy. For the rest, you can easily do the rest of the game without a Summoner. You can have a static with your DPS being Dragoon, Black Mage, Ninja, Bard and clear the entire raids in this game. So I think it's a safe bet to say that most people who play it to a reasonable degree at 50 enjoy the job. And no, all of them do not think like me but like Exstal said, the same can be said to you and it's also a safe bet to say that after Square Enix said multiple times that the job isn't changing, then it's not going to change, especially to something as drastic as what you're proposing.

If you're not going to be even remotely close to being realistic with the changes your proposing, I'm going to say this: enjoy wasting your time!