[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Vashous]

Current Tally:
Yes- 40
No- 20

Before your first reply this thread at the top of it I would really like you to simply type on its own line:

"Yes" if you are not happy with the current gameplay of the Summoner class and would like to see it reworked. or...

"No" if you think that the summoner class is a good representation of it's title and would not like it's core gameplay style changed.


*PLEASE VOTE BEFORE YOU READ EVERYONE ELSES POSTS

Just updated. More votes are starting to get a more definitive result.
see below for rules.

[Vashous]

We are not talking numbers here, or whether or not the Summoner class is strong/weak compared to other jobs. This is a thread to find out what percentage of us Summoner players are disgruntled with the current form of the Job that is Summoner.

I will be consistently checking and tallying votes as long as the thread is still getting posts and votes. I will weigh in on a separate post because I want people to vote based on how they genuinely feel and not how I have tried to convince them to feel. Also, please do not vote of you have not played through a good portion of Summoner and actually know what the gameplay is like.

[Vashous]

YES

When I saw SE was making a SMN job I was so thrilled because through all of the FFs I have always loved the job of the Summoner the most. The problem with FFXIV's summoner is we are nothing more than a lame pet class. The worst part of this is the focus of the summoner is DD through optimization of our DoTs and offers very little interaction with the actual pet itself.

I was really hoping that FFXIV was going to be inventive with this opportunity and not just conform to every other MMO's standard pet class. Unfortunately I was proven wrong.

Personally, I would love to see these summons re-envisioned more as short term companions whose initial summoning does decent burst dmg or has an effect, stays for a short duration, and is dismissed either in death or a timer. They should be our main damage source, not a bunch of DoTs with a pet basically acting as another DoT.

[Mikejconnor]

YES your post hit the nail on the head brother

YES

When I saw SE was making a SMN job I was so thrilled because through all of the FFs I have always loved the job of the Summoner the most. The problem with FFXIV's summoner is we are nothing more than a lame pet class. The worst part of this is the focus of the summoner is DD through optimization of our DoTs and offers very little interaction with the actual pet itself.

I was really hoping that FFXIV was going to be inventive with this opportunity and not just conform to every other MMO's standard pet class. Unfortunately I was proven wrong.

Personally, I would love to see these summons re-envisioned more as short term companions whose initial summoning does decent burst dmg or has an effect, stays for a short duration, and is dismissed either in death or a timer. They should be our main damage source, not a bunch of DoTs with a pet basically acting as another DoT.

[Trystan]

YES

When I saw SE was making a SMN job I was so thrilled because through all of the FFs I have always loved the job of the Summoner the most. The problem with FFXIV's summoner is we are nothing more than a lame pet class. The worst part of this is the focus of the summoner is DD through optimization of our DoTs and offers very little interaction with the actual pet itself.

I was really hoping that FFXIV was going to be inventive with this opportunity and not just conform to every other MMO's standard pet class. Unfortunately I was proven wrong.

Personally, I would love to see these summons re-envisioned more as short term companions whose initial summoning does decent burst dmg or has an effect, stays for a short duration, and is dismissed either in death or a timer. They should be our main damage source, not a bunch of DoTs with a pet basically acting as another DoT.

Hm... but your dream does not work in a movement intense endgame.

If you want to cast powerfull Summons for huge burst damage - you need long cast times, meaning no mobility.

And if you can use Swiftcast with Summons (what you can do currently) you get a huge ballancing problem, because then Summons would be infinitely too powerfull.

I get where you come from... but I dont see your dream work in this game. But you are not allone, my dream of a Main-Support-Class (maybe RDM) doesnt work in a 4-man-group game either... ;-)


/edit: Forgot to vote... a NO from me.

[Akiza]

Hm... but your dream does not work in a movement intense endgame.

If you want to cast powerfull Summons for huge burst damage - you need long cast times, meaning no mobility.

And if you can use Swiftcast with Summons (what you can do currently) you get a huge ballancing problem, because then Summons would be infinitely too powerfull.

I get where you come from... but I dont see your dream work in this game. But you are not allone, my dream of a Main-Support-Class (maybe RDM) doesnt work in a 4-man-group game either... ;-)


/edit: Forgot to vote... a NO from me.

Cast time for summon is 6 sec which is insanely long for the pets we summon

[Eggnook24]

I'd love to see some poles, maybe even dancers using them on a stage waiting for Gil to be thrown their way. Oooh, Gold Saucer might become a gentleman's club!

[Sarynth]

I\\'d love to see some poles, maybe even dancers using them on a stage waiting for Gil to be thrown their way. Oooh, Gold Saucer might become a gentleman\\'s club!

Way off topic but my drg just plenty of 'pole' dancing in the streets of Ul'dah :3

[Veis]

Summoner is probably the one of the better classes right now for end game. The problem is most summoners don't know how to play.

I really don't mind the playstyle of managing dots.

[Purutzil]

Yes

Class should be more based on the summoners. Less (if ANY) dots and focus on pet abilities having skills tied into the pet.

That being said given that change happens, I'd hope to see another class come in that has a lot of the dots that summoner has. I enjoy the concept and the play, I just feel its not really very 'summoner' like, even if its fun.

As a side note: LOL Pole instead of Poll!