2.4 Dungeons & ilvl

[LalaRu]

2.4 experts dropping housing goodies and no armor. It may be something different!

[Altanas]

I hope I get to cap my seals even faster by trading in the worthless drops!

Gotta get all those Sultana portraits somehow <3

[Toodles]

2.4 experts dropping housing goodies and no armor. It may be something different!

Dungeons dropping Riviera Benches in 2.4.

Please look forward to it.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

I'm assuming the loot lock on ST will be removed for 2.4?

I think it should be a partial unlock. Gear is unlocked, but UAT, Oil, and Sand stays weekly.

[Andres_Lonegrief]

I think it should be a partial unlock. Gear is unlocked, but UAT, Oil, and Sand stays weekly.

I was thinking about this too, but in the end with 2.4 we will have higher gear to buy with new tomestones (so higher then 110), so it wouldn't be so much of an issue if Oil and Sand were unlocked too... right?

[Sygmaelle]

Most likely ilvl90 since they re gonna scrap the myth just like they did with philosophy ... because new tomestones.

[Radacci]

Right! That's the problem. This whole System is designed a little wrong... But what i said, wasn't only meant for gear dropping and the ilvl...it was more about the difficulty. I Dont want that dungeons and coil become even with their drops, not at all. This would be ridiculous. But there has to be more activity for the ppl who are into coil....who are playing since launch (not to mention 1.0 players). We would like to do something useful too besides coil. Not only we have a weekly lockout in "our" content, but also maybe we would like to have some variety. So it would be nice if at least one of the new dungeons would actually be somewhat challenging and/or rewarding for the coil-generation ;-P

what would be the point of challenging content, that don't give any comparable rewards? that's like savage coil, which most ppl don't bother with, anymore.
the only thing that makes content challenging, is mechanics...which makes gear, semi-irrelevant.
ppl have been farming T9 for quite some time, so no matter what mechanics they throw in there, ppl will figure it out, then have it on farm, and complain it's to easy. and if there's no rewards, they'll stop doing it.
The expert dungeons ARE quite challenging, unless you are overgeared (in which case it's still challenging, if you don't know the mechanics) think Diablos: unless your group has really high DPS, and ignore the mechanics, there's actually an enrage timer (you run out of gates to open) and then there was pharos (which i didn't do at the time) and all the QQ about how difficult it was.
it's just a matter of perspective; what's easy to you, is very hard, to someone else.
The people that clear T9, are the top 1%, and their opinions don't matter, when it comes to dungeons cause everything is easy to them.
The only challenge you'll find, is the initial rush to learn the mechanics of a fight, then it's just memorizing rotations/timers, and it becomes easy; even T14 (if there will be that many turns) will be easy, once ppl figure it out.
Yoshi was shocked at how fast ppl cleared T9, but he said they still don't want to make stricter dps checks, cause it would make it impossible to clear, for most ppl.
so it will probably remain=learn mechanics, farm it.

i105 is far more appropriate than i100 though since we have two sets of i100 and it shouldn't equal sanded soldiery IMHO.

Besides, they underuse the intermediate ilvl's anyway (i85, 95, 105, so on).

Minimum ilvl 95, Suggested ilvl 100, Drops i105.

They need tighter tuning anyway, none of this minimum being 30 ilvl below.

there's a 90% chance, it will be ilv 90 gear
they have been doing lv 50 dungeons, 60, 70, 80, and now 90, and i'm sure it will stay that way. And for expansion, they will maybe add ilv 110.

[Nestama]

there's a 90% chance, it will be ilv 90 gear
they have been doing lv 50 dungeons, 60, 70, 80, and now 90, and i'm sure it will stay that way. And for expansion, they will maybe add ilv 110.

Honestly, that would be enough to keep me un-subscribed (a new Job, Coil and Primal will not make me click renew). Why make dungeons at all if they're only going to drop outdated/recycled gear (Myth gear can already be bought with Allied seals, it has also been available ever since launch. Anyone who has been playing since then will already have the entire Myth set. First Coil already drops i90 gear. i90 gear can already be crafted)?

[Danima]

etc..... Anyone who has been playing since then will already have the entire Myth set. First Coil already drops i90 gear. i90 gear can already be crafted)?

This^
I wont argue what Radacci is saying, he is right with everything. But exactly that is the problem...the New stuff added by SE is worthless from the beginning of its implementation for a large group. It doesn't matter if it becomes easy as soon as u learned the mechanics or get better gear. Thats normal...But its easy before all that. And dont get me wrong. Im not a rusher, i Dont have t9 clear yet...But still. I want dungeons too...that are designed for my ilvl. I dont farm gear only to unequip it for making the dungeons harder. Thats not how it should be. And im not selfish too...im not saying they should'nt implement stuff for the lower ilvls. Im just saying...there are comming 3 dungeons with every major patch. At least one ( 1 ) could be designed for the higher ilvls.

[Warlyx]

the New stuff added by SE is worthless from the beginning of its implementation for a large group

yup

ST (now drops sands /oil) ,hunts +Coil 2 .

if u arent running with full 110 on your main job by the time 2.4 hit u arent even playing FFXIV.