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  1. #181
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AegisXI View Post
    The fact is, that BRDs can do high DPS and keep up with melee dps and avoid from getting hit. Also... if ur not top DPS on brd, then ur playing the whole job wrong, or u just suck
    If we're not top DPS, it's because we're in Coil. Or we're singing Mage's Ballad or Army's Paeon, both of which LOWER our DPS by 20%.
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  2. #182
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    Woodberry's Avatar
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    Wood Berry
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapse View Post
    A perfect example of someone who has no idea the DPS differences and the capability all the other classes have. At this point I don't even care I've moved on and geared out my Summoner. Not only is it the top DPS class in the game currently by margins with a pet that pulls DPS equal to a Coil geared tank but I have just as much mobility aside from 2 dots that have to be cast while standing still. On top of that I get amazing utility, the ability to heal myself, and an AoE Limit Breaker.
    Don't forget the rez.
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  3. #183
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    Kitkat's Avatar
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    Kaliga Moonshade
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Louro999 View Post
    I find it very funny that some people claim that BRD and BLM are on par on their coil parser.
    Well they just forget one simple thing:
    The bard is using songs. -20% self dps. +20% dps to casters.
    Seems you are misinformed on how Requiem works. This is actually the only song that doesn't have a penalty attached to it when in use to the bard and it is a -10% to elemental resistance unless under the effect of battle voice. This means, whether it is up or not, the bards output is unhindered so in turn means you are horribly skewing the truth of the matter. This and other misinformed -eyeballing- shows major inaccuracies when it comes to brds max output compared to other dps max output.
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  4. #184
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    Dean86's Avatar
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    Val'naka Inle'dols
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I'm quite happy there nerfing bards. I can never get a coil party because people want two bards along with all the other essentials leaving v little for other dps
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  5. #185
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    Woodberry's Avatar
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    Wood Berry
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dean86 View Post
    I'm quite happy there nerfing bards. I can never get a coil party because people want two bards along with all the other essentials leaving v little for other dps
    Well, they mentioned damage, not silence and songs. You still might not get groups. Though SMNs really are the best dps with some utility, so maybe you will.
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  6. #186
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    Calypsx's Avatar
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    Caly Umbra
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Well this is good news.

    They will still be useful due to their songs, utility, and mobility so a damage nerf will not do anything to them anyway.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 10-21-2013 at 09:17 AM.

  7. #187
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    MalcolmReynolds's Avatar
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    Malcolm Reynolds
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Oh man, wish I could see the reactions from all those people telling me how I was wrong when I said a nerf was incoming. "Umm...what proof do you have? I didn't see anything official." It's an MMO people. If it's not balanced, things will change.

    That said, quit crying before you even know how the nerf will affect you. Not all nerfs automatically drop you to bottom tier. Maybe now other classes will be desirable and *gasp* you might have to do a bit more besides just sitting back and spamming a few buttons. Plus if SE is smart, they can easily not nerf BRD damage but instead just have increased action damage only give a partial buff while moving.
    (1)
    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.

  8. #188
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    ZaelC's Avatar
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    Zael Cresnah
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Its fun how people think devs change things just because people cry and not because there is actually a problem. Don't blame other people because BRDs were OP and Devs saw it.

    And yeah I didn't want a BRD nerf, but its good to know they aren't going to be the principal and obligated DPS in every eng-game content group just because the big damage and good support skills, others dps just have damage and even like that they don't do as much as BRD that haves full mobility plus party support.

    The endgame difficulty goes like this (Coil for example):

    4 Melee DPS - Almost impossible

    3 Melee DPS and 1 Ranged - Hard

    2 Melee DPS and 2 Ranged - Normal but still need good strategy

    1 Melee DPS and 3 Ranged - Easy

    4 ranged DPS - How the hell you didn't make it?
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  9. #189
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    Crescent_Dusk's Avatar
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ZaelC View Post
    Its fun how people think devs change things just because people cry and not because there is actually a problem. Don't blame other people because BRDs were OP and Devs saw it.

    And yeah I didn't want a BRD nerf, but its good to know they aren't going to be the principal and obligated DPS in every eng-game content group just because the big damage and good support skills, others dps just have damage and even like that they don't do as much as BRD that haves full mobility plus party support.

    The endgame difficulty goes like this (Coil for example):

    4 Melee DPS - Almost impossible

    3 Melee DPS and 1 Ranged - Hard

    2 Melee DPS and 2 Ranged - Normal but still need good strategy

    1 Melee DPS and 3 Ranged - Easy

    4 ranged DPS - How the hell you didn't make it?

    Melee in coil is not hard. The only boss which may make it sort of tricky is ADS 2, and the rest is smooth sailing. Stop exaggerating.
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  10. #190
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    Ixsiehn's Avatar
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    Riela Marcellis
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    ITT: Tears, Tears, Alot of them. Moar tears!!!!
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